i am srictly on this list to provide comic relief. On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 1:24 PM, Samael <samael.anon at gmail.com> wrote: > oh shoot, another unhappy customer... > > > On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 12:02 PM, Dan Smith <dan.smith225 at gmail.com>wrote: > >> In regards to the VMware discussion thread that I started yesterday. I now >> regret it. Honestly it sounds like nobody on this list actually value's >> older software. VMware ESXi 3.5i is 32bit software that does not require >> virtualization on a CPU with the VT extensions. Yes it would help in a >> virtual environment, but is not required. And, FYI, there are two versions >> of VMware ESXi 3.5 (32bit) and Vmware ESXi 4 (64bit only). >> >> Thanks, >> >> -Dan >> >> On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 9:10 AM, <tclug-list-request at mn-linux.org> wrote: >> >>> Send tclug-list mailing list submissions to >>> tclug-list at mn-linux.org >>> >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>> tclug-list-request at mn-linux.org >>> >>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>> tclug-list-owner at mn-linux.org >>> >>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>> than "Re: Contents of tclug-list digest..." >>> >>> >>> Today's Topics: >>> >>> 1. Re: Meeting (Robert Nesius) >>> 2. Re: Meeting (Ryan Coleman) >>> 3. Re: Meeting (Mike Miller) >>> 4. Re: Looking for assistance with VMware ESXi. (Elvedin Trnjanin) >>> 5. Re: Meeting (Erik Mitchell) >>> 6. Re: Looking for assistance with VMware ESXi. (Tony Yarusso) >>> 7. Re: Looking for assistance with VMware ESXi. >>> (Patrick "Finn" Robins) >>> 8. Re: Looking for assistance with VMware ESXi. (Chris Niesen) >>> >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> Message: 1 >>> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 22:09:27 -0600 >>> From: Robert Nesius <nesius at gmail.com> >>> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Meeting >>> To: TCLUG Mailing List <tclug-list at mn-linux.org> >>> Message-ID: >>> <AANLkTik86sXz=BMPDTHJ-i8whCka4CMc_uDvPvUojZkb at mail.gmail.com> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >>> >>> Something in St. Louis Park I'd considering trucking it in from the St. >>> Cloud area. Getting over to Eagan looks tricky - last time I tried to >>> get >>> over to the airport across the south metro during rush hour there was no >>> path that wasn't completely stacked up. Took me 45 minutes to get across >>> Edina and Bloomington. >>> >>> -Rob >>> >>> On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 8:41 AM, J.A. Simmons V <simmonsj at redkeep.com >>> >wrote: >>> >>> > I know of a security group in the area that does a rotating meeting to >>> > solve this problem. One month in Minneapolis, one month in St. Paul. >>> > >>> > Simmons >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >>> > tclug-list at mn-linux.org >>> > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >>> > >>> > >>> -------------- next part -------------- >>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>> URL: >>> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/pipermail/tclug-list/attachments/20110120/7a613433/attachment-0001.htm >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 2 >>> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 00:33:42 -0600 >>> From: Ryan Coleman <ryanjcole at me.com> >>> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Meeting >>> To: TCLUG Mailing List <tclug-list at mn-linux.org> >>> Message-ID: <93A87D2B-ED53-42ED-9B61-95AEE9E133B5 at me.com> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>> >>> Robert, >>> >>> You should consider 55 through Minneapolis and grabbing 110 or Pilot >>> Knob. Usually a much smoother ride, albeit one with 10 stoplights. >>> >>> -- >>> Ryan >>> >>> On Jan 20, 2011, at 10:09 PM, Robert Nesius wrote: >>> >>> > Something in St. Louis Park I'd considering trucking it in from the St. >>> Cloud area. Getting over to Eagan looks tricky - last time I tried to get >>> over to the airport across the south metro during rush hour there was no >>> path that wasn't completely stacked up. Took me 45 minutes to get across >>> Edina and Bloomington. >>> > >>> > -Rob >>> > >>> > On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 8:41 AM, J.A. Simmons V <simmonsj at redkeep.com> >>> wrote: >>> > I know of a security group in the area that does a rotating meeting to >>> solve this problem. One month in Minneapolis, one month in St. Paul. >>> > >>> > Simmons >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >>> > tclug-list at mn-linux.org >>> > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >>> > >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >>> > tclug-list at mn-linux.org >>> > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >>> >>> -------------- next part -------------- >>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>> URL: >>> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/pipermail/tclug-list/attachments/20110121/1a9ba17f/attachment-0001.htm >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 3 >>> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 01:03:26 -0600 (CST) >>> From: Mike Miller <mbmiller+l at gmail.com <mbmiller%2Bl at gmail.com>> >>> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Meeting >>> To: TCLUG Mailing List <tclug-list at mn-linux.org> >>> Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1101210100450.31009 at taxa.psych.umn.edu> >>> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed >>> >>> On Fri, 21 Jan 2011, Ryan Coleman wrote: >>> >>> > You should consider 55 through Minneapolis and grabbing 110 or Pilot >>> > Knob. Usually a much smoother ride, albeit one with 10 stoplights. >>> >>> >>> Sometimes it's even better to get on the river road. Take the West river >>> road down to Franklin or Lake or Ford and cross over to the East. From >>> there you can get on Rt. 5. You might only to 25 mph, but you won't hit >>> any lights. I've used it to get from the U to the airport at rush hour >>> and it works great. >>> >>> Mike >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 4 >>> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 01:08:59 -0600 >>> From: Elvedin Trnjanin <trnja001 at umn.edu> >>> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Looking for assistance with VMware ESXi. >>> To: TCLUG Mailing List <tclug-list at mn-linux.org> >>> Cc: Dan Smith <dan.smith225 at gmail.com> >>> Message-ID: <4D39310B.1000801 at umn.edu> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >>> >>> On 1/20/2011 11:31 PM, Dan Smith wrote: >>> > Tclug, >>> > >>> > I know this isn't the vmware communities (VMUG) but, I thought I'd >>> > start here before having to make another user account in another >>> > system somewhere... >>> > >>> > I have a HP Proliant DL360 (G1) it's about 10 years old and I'm >>> > looking to find out if I can install VMware Hypervisor (ESXi) 3.5i on >>> it. >>> ESXi supports less hardware than ESX. If you don't have licenses to >>> spare, this means you're a bit out of luck and have to go with the free >>> version which is only limited to ESXi. >>> > >>> > System Specs are as follows: >>> > Dual P3 (1ghz) Processors >>> > Dual 72.8gb Ultra320 SCSI drives. >>> > 4gb's of ram >>> > Looks like it's using the integrated Smart Array Controller. >>> Generally the storage controller is most likely device not to be >>> supported >>> > >>> > This is the faster of my two servers. I also have a HP Netserver >>> > LP2000R running VMware ESXi 3.5i, but would like a little faster >>> > server until I'm able to afford a few Dell PowerEdge 1850's or 2850's >>> > to run Hypervisor 4 or have a enviroment to work with hyper-v. >>> You may be able to save some money by going with tower servers instead >>> of rack mounted ones. Dell typically has great deals on them. >>> > >>> > If anyone has experience with this server model installing a VMware >>> > ESX or ESXi product, please let me know. >>> No experience with this server model, but you might want to look into >>> ESX\ESXi version 2 although you may not be able to get licenses for it. >>> Another option is the hosted VMware Server which runs in Windows or >>> Linux as it will more likely support your hardware. >>> > >>> > Thanks! >>> > >>> > - >>> > Dan >>> > Email: dan.smith225 at gmail.com <mailto:dan.smith225 at gmail.com> >>> > >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >>> > tclug-list at mn-linux.org >>> > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >>> >>> -------------- next part -------------- >>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>> URL: >>> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/pipermail/tclug-list/attachments/20110121/cad78f9e/attachment-0001.htm >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 5 >>> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 05:55:05 -0600 >>> From: Erik Mitchell <erik.mitchell at gmail.com> >>> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Meeting >>> To: TCLUG Mailing List <tclug-list at mn-linux.org> >>> Message-ID: >>> <AANLkTimmr+fH8vPKnC5iWCFTGkACOrDRW=Cm0f_bprfC at mail.gmail.com> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >>> >>> Robert, >>> The Roseville location might not be any worse, although I can't speak >>> to traffic. You'd just stay on 694 until you hit 35W, and go south >>> from there to 36, and over to Snelling. If traffic is the same I would >>> think the travel time from St. Cloud would be the same to Roseville >>> and SLP. >>> >>> -Erik >>> >>> On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 10:09 PM, Robert Nesius <nesius at gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> > Something in St. Louis Park I'd considering trucking it in from the St. >>> > Cloud area.? Getting over to Eagan looks tricky - last time I tried to >>> get >>> > over to the airport across the south metro during rush hour there was >>> no >>> > path that wasn't completely stacked up.? Took me 45 minutes to get >>> across >>> > Edina and Bloomington. >>> > >>> > -Rob >>> > >>> > On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 8:41 AM, J.A. Simmons V <simmonsj at redkeep.com> >>> > wrote: >>> >> >>> >> I know of a security group in the area that does a rotating meeting to >>> >> solve this problem. One month in Minneapolis, one month in St. Paul. >>> >> Simmons >>> >> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >>> >> TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >>> >> tclug-list at mn-linux.org >>> >> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >>> >> >>> > >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >>> > tclug-list at mn-linux.org >>> > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >>> > >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Erik K. Mitchell -- Web Developer >>> erik.mitchell at gmail.com >>> erik at ekmitchell.com >>> http://ekmitchell.com/ >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 6 >>> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 06:11:30 -0600 >>> From: Tony Yarusso <tonyyarusso at gmail.com> >>> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Looking for assistance with VMware ESXi. >>> To: TCLUG Mailing List <tclug-list at mn-linux.org> >>> Message-ID: >>> <AANLkTi=k+_Bg1ZfTaR=nBu_nzTPTBZ9r4cmzR+ZizOg=@mail.gmail.com> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >>> >>> On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 11:31 PM, Dan Smith <dan.smith225 at gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> > System Specs are as follows: >>> > Dual P3 (1ghz) Processors >>> >>> Running a virtualization system on a processor without the >>> virtualization instruction set extensions will either be impossible or >>> just woefully inadequate, depending on the type. I'm not sure which >>> type VMware ESX is, but either way I wouldn't expect this to work >>> *well*, if at all. >>> >>> - Tony >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 7 >>> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 08:32:57 -0600 >>> From: "Patrick \"Finn\" Robins" <13.finn at gmail.com> >>> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Looking for assistance with VMware ESXi. >>> To: TCLUG Mailing List <tclug-list at mn-linux.org> >>> Message-ID: >>> <AANLkTinaAZL9AyjM2ZVEe+6hvBRCvZwSCLUyXuqOLKj2 at mail.gmail.com<AANLkTinaAZL9AyjM2ZVEe%2B6hvBRCvZwSCLUyXuqOLKj2 at mail.gmail.com> >>> > >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >>> >>> I have to second that. Virtualization on a CPU without the VT extensions >>> is >>> a big performance hit. >>> >>> >>> -Patrick "Finn" Robins >>> >>> -- >>> Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter >>> and those who matter don't mind. >>> - Dr. Seuss >>> -------------- next part -------------- >>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>> URL: >>> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/pipermail/tclug-list/attachments/20110121/20c3a43b/attachment-0001.htm >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 8 >>> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 09:09:30 -0600 >>> From: Chris Niesen <chris.niesen at gmail.com> >>> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Looking for assistance with VMware ESXi. >>> To: TCLUG Mailing List <tclug-list at mn-linux.org> >>> Message-ID: >>> <AANLkTimxe-Bbi0Gat1U6zw4Vg=ps4t=snYsA7qGMWiMi at mail.gmail.com> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >>> >>> ESXi requires a 64 bit processor. Don't waste your time. >>> >>> On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 11:31 PM, Dan Smith <dan.smith225 at gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> > Tclug, >>> > >>> > I know this isn't the vmware communities (VMUG) but, I thought I'd >>> start >>> > here before having to make another user account in another system >>> > somewhere... >>> > >>> > I have a HP Proliant DL360 (G1) it's about 10 years old and I'm looking >>> to >>> > find out if I can install VMware Hypervisor (ESXi) 3.5i on it. >>> > >>> > System Specs are as follows: >>> > Dual P3 (1ghz) Processors >>> > Dual 72.8gb Ultra320 SCSI drives. >>> > 4gb's of ram >>> > Looks like it's using the integrated Smart Array Controller. >>> > >>> > This is the faster of my two servers. I also have a HP Netserver >>> LP2000R >>> > running VMware ESXi 3.5i, but would like a little faster server until >>> I'm >>> > able to afford a few Dell PowerEdge 1850's or 2850's to run Hypervisor >>> 4 or >>> > have a enviroment to work with hyper-v. >>> > >>> > If anyone has experience with this server model installing a VMware ESX >>> or >>> > ESXi product, please let me know. >>> > >>> > Thanks! >>> > >>> > - >>> > Dan >>> > Email: dan.smith225 at gmail.com >>> > >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >>> > tclug-list at mn-linux.org >>> > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >>> > >>> > >>> -------------- next part -------------- >>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>> URL: >>> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/pipermail/tclug-list/attachments/20110121/4c0ea402/attachment.htm >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >>> tclug-list at mn-linux.org >>> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >>> >>> End of tclug-list Digest, Vol 73, Issue 40 >>> ****************************************** >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >> tclug-list at mn-linux.org >> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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