On 2013-01-18 22:02, Chuck Cole wrote: > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: tclug-list-bounces at mn-linux.org >> [mailto:tclug-list-bounces at mn-linux.org] On Behalf Of Yaron >> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 10:17 PM >> To: TCLUG >> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Subject: Re: Ubuntu Phone >> >> On Fri, 18 Jan 2013, Chuck Cole wrote: >> >>> I live in the USA. Have little need to look at the rest of >> the world, >> ... >>> Your liking the "minority spec" doesn't make it a great choice for >>> everybody else. >> >> Wow. Again, CDMA is by FAR the "minority" spec, worldwide. >> Most US carriers never bothered upgrading their >> infrastructure, although they ARE working on it. And when >> they switch, you'll be the one who has to change phones. >> >> Either way, though, most cell carriers in the US treat people >> fairly horribly. The aforementioned phone-locking, for one. >> Charging for incomming SMS/MMS and phonecalls is also >> something that doesn't happen other places. >> >> I'm glad you're happy with your phone and service, and I'm >> not at all trying to get you to switch or anything. Nowhere >> in the conversation was anything like that mentioned. But >> when you say GSM is the minority and that you can switch CDMA >> phones between providers, sorry but that's just not true. > > The fact that 5 of 7 US providers use CDMA is indeed true, and THAT defines > a kind of majority, as I stated before... As I also stated, worldwide > doesn't matter much for citizens and services here. That's all I stated > about majority. > > Nuf sed. Enjoy your whatever. Chuck, it's pretty intellectually dishonest to dumb down this conversation to CDMA vs. GSM. Sprint's first foray into 4G was using WiMAX, a path they've since abandoned. They're now re-deploying their 4G as LTE, just as Verizon did well before everyone else. (I also find Verizon's commercials touting the largest 4G LTE network similarly dishonest -- yes, their 4G LTE network is the biggest, because everyone else's first "4G" deployment used other technologies.) Let's see, who in the United States is moving to LTE? AT&T Cricket Wireless MetroPCS Sprint Nextel US Cellular Verizon Wireless Curiously, five of those carriers you put squarely in the CDMA column. How invested are they in CDMA going forward, exactly? Citation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks#Americas -- yes, it's Wikipedia, but your citation for CDMA vs. GSM was PC Magazine, and seems out of date for 2012. I'll take my chances with at least a joke of peer review. Jima