I would be delighted to participate in expanding the linux discussion. Clearly, I read the posts and rarely feel anything connects to my interests. I won't claim to be an expert at anything. But I happened to start grad school Biophysics under the guy who invented digital electronics, Otto Schmitt, by copying nerve signals. I still have some ancient tube era big steel getting pretty rusty. I pushed fiber optics when nobody concieved of the internet. I worked in an era when hand operated chemical instruments became computer operated. I did a 3D graphics of the electro-optics of some peptide structures and pushed liquid crystals on an 8bit DOS machine doing the math myself on sloowww PCBios Basic and IIRC 256K of memory (I'm still amazed that worked). I've seen enormous changes that Minnesota failed to exploit as it might have if we had some better engagement. As a parent, it seems kids wanting toys has been calling the shots for a long time. People are free to create their own Ubuntu club. But don't gang up on a guy trying to expand the linux discussion. Erik Anderson wrote: > On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 9:58 PM, Mike Miller<mbmiller+l at gmail.com> wrote: > >> If his enthusiasm sometimes causes him to make incorrect statements, then >> feel free to correct him, just like we correct everyone else. > > > I have. Others have as well, apparently to no effect. > > To be clear, I have nothing against passion, even passion for > old/lightweight hardware. We *need* passionate people. What I think is > unhealthy (for the person and the profession) It is when passion becomes so > one-sided that the person is unable to understand or even acknowledge that > there are a *lot* of different use cases, requirements, hardware, > preferences, etc. out there. As another list member pointed out - it's no > use dismissing the whole Parallela project just because it ships with > Ubuntu by default. > > While I do focus on server-side linux implementations, I do try and keep a > broader view of other areas of linux usage as well: desktop, embedded, etc. > I recognize, though that we all have blind spots - myself very much > included, and it's in all of our best interests to try and minimize those > blind spots. So to that end, I'm willing to have an honest, open-handed, > respectful conversation about this. > > Happy Monday, all! > -Erik > > > > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list