> -----Original Message----- > From: tclug-list-bounces at mn-linux.org > [mailto:tclug-list-bounces at mn-linux.org] On Behalf Of Jima > Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 10:11 PM > To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > Subject: Re: [tclug-list] [ubuntu-us-mn] Penguins Unbound is > on Meetup! > > Chuck, as it's been made abundantly clear (at least to everyone else) > that the vast majority of the TCLUG membership is completely > disinterested in obtaining non-profit status, and you > continue to beat that dead and rotting horse, your dismissal of someone else's > commentary as irrelevant or off-topic is pretty hypocritical. > > Jima > > On 2015-03-14 01:53, Chuck Cole wrote: > > Irrelevant. Off topic Hardly hypocritical: the comment simply was not about the topic of "Meetups". The original Meetup rules have been relaxed greatly. Being non-profit matters a bunch, even if not to TCLUG. I had certainly noticed the lack of interest among TCLUGers, but lack of non-profit status is a problem for Penguins since most meeting spaces require non-profit status to meet there. We had offered to help since Penguins no longer has a home with TIES. Getting sponsorship is difficult if neither non-profit, nor an actual group. I'm currently Vice Chair of the TC IEEE Computer Society which is 501c3 non-profit. I've been a member for 20 years. IEEE is the world's largest professional association, plus being the world's largest technical publisher. Some of what we do includes developing the technology by which you have computers, networking, WiFi, cell phones, power plants, etc. FWIW, we also offer CEUs and for-credit courses, etc. You probably have heard of IEEE 802.x network specs, and others. We will be doing some things with Linux applications as a resource group, and hope to have good relations with TCLUG, Penguins, and TCPC's Linux on Saturdays, etc. Our emphasis upon applications is synergistic with OS and networking, and has been overlooked for many years by TCLUG, et al. We will launch the Technical Professional's Linux Applications Group (TPLAG) in early April. Initially, membership is only open to the 3,000+ IEEE members in this area, but will be opened more fully later on. Because we are a true professional association, we can and do have programs, study groups, development projects, and can advise community and industry as TCLUG and TCWUG found they could not. We just did a technical assessment and quality check at a local brewery on Saturday :-) We are currently working with the Star Tribune on an industrial automation project to help them resolve problems with an automated fork lift system that feeds paper to the presses. Another project group is developing a device for medical technology. Being a non-profit professional association is just a different way of interacting with the community and the world. YMMV. Chuck