r hayman very nice. you just can't argue with that! Should i give people credit for some of these ideas? is that something anyone would want? i think it would build up the community aspect, because that is exactly what this is. On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 3:50 PM, r hayman <rhayman at pureice.com> wrote: > Relevancy. > To remain relevant in many job fields, students must learn about open > source software and Linux. To prepare our students and our future work > force to be relevant when they enter the work force, academia and the > business world need to be aligned and that alignment, in many ways is with > open source software. > > Running open source or COTS software is seldom a business differentiator > today, it may only be a (negative) differentiator based on licensing and > support costs. > > Pharmaceutical research, weather forecasting, climate and environment > research, simulations of all types, manufacturing, design, you name it, it > predominantly runs on Linux and open source. > > For example, visit https://www.top500.org/statistics/list/ and filter on > TOP500 Release: June 2016; then Category(ies): Operating System, > Application Area, and Segments. > > You will find that of the top 500 supercomputer sites in the world, not a > single one runs either Windows or Mac OS X. Only 16 - just a hair over 3%, > run something other than some obvious distribution of Linux. > > > > On Mon, 2016-08-22 at 15:22 -0500, Rick Engebretson wrote: > > When my kids were in High School I tried working with our school > district (Mora, MN.) in about 1998 just to get programming taught, > somewhere. The school used all Macs but had at least one MSWindows 95 in > some kind of lab. On a day they canceled school because of an ice storm > I called and they said I could install the QBasic from Windows, along > with program examples galore. So I left my kids home and drove to town > and installed it all. I later went to school board meetings and they > fought me until my kids all graduated. "Political" is an understatement. > > I use Linux because I can program it. I don't know how kids can make it > in the future without knowing electronics and programming. It seems they > are trying to cripple kids with sports, and retard them intellectually. > It sure wasn't that way in the 1960s. > > Linda Kateley wrote: > > > > I started working with my school district about 10 years ago. The > problems I find there are always political and never about technology. > > What worked for me is to find one champion in the system that speaks > the administrations language. I found there were a ton of people who > wanted to know, just not at the top. > > I introduced scratch to the elementary STEM school about 5 years ago, https://scratch.mit.edu/. It was the districts first involvement with > opensource or community. The project has been very very successful and > it opened the doors to more. But then they hired a new superintendent > that thought it was stupid so..that happened ;( > > linda > > > On 8/21/16 10:43 AM, Sandwhich Eyes wrote: > > > I have already given one presentation at the Blair Taylor School > with the principal and an IT guy and have been asked to give a follow > up talk to them and the head of the IT department. > They had macbook air for the older kids and ipads for the younger > ones. They bring these home at the end of the school day. This time > they decided to go with cromebooks. It one of the best.. rated or > testing, can't think of an appropriate word, but with the quality of > the teachers out here i am pretty sure they could give my kids sticks > and a box of sand and they would still be well prepared for life on > their own/college. I am 100% positive they will be much better off if > they can learn without restrictions from open source hardware, > software, classes (like MIT offers open courseware) and the ability > to choose, to not be scolded for breaking some license agreement or > for reading and modifying code should that be an interest. I want > them to have Linux. > I have gave a compelling argument in the last meeting. This time I > want to have as many resources available to provide for them, > including reasons why schools frequently choose to not use Linux. > Anything will help. I had quite the presentation last time and the IT > guy didn't know what Unix or BSD 4.4 was; or Linux, BSD, Solaris. > Seems Ubuntu provides computers reloaded with Linux and tablets so > how they didn't find anything about open source or Linux/BSD/ETC is > beyond me. I gave them a live Ubuntu OS on a thumb drive. I wanted to > make some more and use persistence to load up some information to > give to the IT people who are possibly way under informed, to give > them plenty of time on their own to absorb what open source has to > offer; mostly community! > They asked many questions about community. Yes we work together > and keep our favorite distributions alive often without corporate > support! > > > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesotatclug-list at mn-linux.orghttp://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesotatclug-list at mn-linux.orghttp://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesotatclug-list at mn-linux.orghttp://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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