Hi, Ryan: Well, it's not too soon to start designing a statewide community emergency broadband mesh network. Rochester is considering the feasibility of such a network as we sit here. :) Tom P.S. I could be wrong about that. I'm guessing these networks can be sustainable based on a business model that pairs up advertisers with content. On 08/22/2016 10:29 PM, Ryan Coleman wrote: > > Mesh is nice. I design and install large systems as part of my day job. > > > >> On Aug 22, 2016, at 5:58 PM, Sandwhich Eyes <sandwhicheyes at gmail.com >> <mailto:sandwhicheyes at gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> I really like this wireless mesh stuff. I am very interested. doing >> some deep reading now. >> >> http://qmp.cat/Overview >> >> also check out how it has cat in the domain name. facebook flagged it >> as dangerous so i had click a few pictures of cats and what not to >> get it to publish. this is the site off of the nyc mesh link from >> tom poe. >> >> On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 4:09 PM, Sandwhich Eyes >> <sandwhicheyes at gmail.com <mailto:sandwhicheyes at gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> r hayman very nice. you just can't argue with that! >> Should i give people credit for some of these ideas? is that >> something anyone would want? i think it would build up the >> community aspect, because that is exactly what this is. >> >> On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 3:50 PM, r hayman <rhayman at pureice.com >> <mailto:rhayman at pureice.com>> wrote: >> >> Relevancy. >> To remain relevant in many job fields, students must learn >> about open source software and Linux. To prepare our students >> and our future work force to be relevant when they enter the >> work force, academia and the business world need to be >> aligned and that alignment, in many ways is with open source >> software. >> >> Running open source or COTS software is seldom a business >> differentiator today, it may only be a (negative) >> differentiator based on licensing and support costs. >> >> Pharmaceutical research, weather forecasting, climate and >> environment research, simulations of all types, >> manufacturing, design, you name it, it predominantly runs on >> Linux and open source. >> >> For example, visit https://www.top500.org/statistics/list/ >> <https://www.top500.org/statistics/list/> and filter on >> TOP500 Release: June 2016; then Category(ies): Operating >> System, Application Area, and Segments. >> >> You will find that of the top 500 supercomputer sites in the >> world, not a single one runs either Windows or Mac OS X. Only >> 16 - just a hair over 3%, run something other than some >> obvious distribution of Linux. >> >> >> >> On Mon, 2016-08-22 at 15:22 -0500, Rick Engebretson wrote: >>> When my kids were in High School I tried working with our school >>> district (Mora, MN.) in about 1998 just to get programming taught, >>> somewhere. The school used all Macs but had at least one MSWindows 95 in >>> some kind of lab. On a day they canceled school because of an ice storm >>> I called and they said I could install the QBasic from Windows, along >>> with program examples galore. So I left my kids home and drove to town >>> and installed it all. I later went to school board meetings and they >>> fought me until my kids all graduated. "Political" is an understatement. >>> >>> I use Linux because I can program it. I don't know how kids can make it >>> in the future without knowing electronics and programming. It seems they >>> are trying to cripple kids with sports, and retard them intellectually. >>> It sure wasn't that way in the 1960s. >>> >>> Linda Kateley wrote: >>>> I started working with my school district about 10 years >>>> ago. The problems I find there are always political and >>>> never about technology. What worked for me is to find one >>>> champion in the system that speaks the administrations >>>> language. I found there were a ton of people who wanted to >>>> know, just not at the top. I introduced scratch to the >>>> elementary STEM school about 5 years ago, >>>> https://scratch.mit.edu/. It was the districts first >>>> involvement with opensource or community. The project has >>>> been very very successful and it opened the doors to more. >>>> But then they hired a new superintendent that thought it >>>> was stupid so..that happened ;( linda On 8/21/16 10:43 AM, >>>> Sandwhich Eyes wrote: >>>>> I have already given one presentation at the Blair Taylor >>>>> School with the principal and an IT guy and have been >>>>> asked to give a follow up talk to them and the head of the >>>>> IT department. They had macbook air for the older kids and >>>>> ipads for the younger ones. They bring these home at the >>>>> end of the school day. This time they decided to go with >>>>> cromebooks. It one of the best.. rated or testing, can't >>>>> think of an appropriate word, but with the quality of the >>>>> teachers out here i am pretty sure they could give my kids >>>>> sticks and a box of sand and they would still be well >>>>> prepared for life on their own/college. I am 100% positive >>>>> they will be much better off if they can learn without >>>>> restrictions from open source hardware, software, classes >>>>> (like MIT offers open courseware) and the ability to >>>>> choose, to not be scolded for breaking some license >>>>> agreement or for reading and modifying code should that be >>>>> an interest. I want them to have Linux. I have gave a >>>>> compelling argument in the last meeting. This time I want >>>>> to have as many resources available to provide for them, >>>>> including reasons why schools frequently choose to not use >>>>> Linux. Anything will help. I had quite the presentation >>>>> last time and the IT guy didn't know what Unix or BSD 4.4 >>>>> was; or Linux, BSD, Solaris. Seems Ubuntu provides >>>>> computers reloaded with Linux and tablets so how they >>>>> didn't find anything about open source or Linux/BSD/ETC is >>>>> beyond me. I gave them a live Ubuntu OS on a thumb drive. >>>>> I wanted to make some more and use persistence to load up >>>>> some information to give to the IT people who are possibly >>>>> way under informed, to give them plenty of time on their >>>>> own to absorb what open source has to offer; mostly >>>>> community! They asked many questions about community. 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