Hello again, and thanks. Just a few things. First, perhaps making the swap partition larger is helpful. Perhaps a large memory video card helps with some uses. Perhaps using a memory tester to find a needle in the haystack. I've had some web sites really bog down, but I've heard the same from windows users. Sometimes I get a "script not responding" browser warning. Since some web sites love to punish you with advertising and tracking after they detect your OS and browser. Perhaps you should consider Linux browsers locking up a positive, not negative, feature. Firefox has a running report how much it has blocked, and it's a lot. Some fun chatter with a fun computer explorer here. I found Windows ME with an NVidia TNT2 video card has great 1600x900 @60Hz graphics on the modern displays. I have played with FreeDOS, Borland TurboPascal, and QBasic, etc. Also, the Atmel AVRStudio 4 is a wonderful tool to learn microcontroller assembly language. Just never let Windows ME touch the internet. Further, tk text widget GUI control can choose the blinking insert cursor to be a square block or line, and even how fast it blinks. As if it matters. I run into farmers all the time bragging about BIG tractors, BIG land, but they don't mention BIG BIG DEBT. Same with many of today's punk kids with multi terabyte hard drives who must expect to live 500 years to use it all. Thanks again. And please keep sharing your experiences. Haudy Kazemi wrote: > I haven't had problems when using Linux desktops in the way you have > described. Terminals and text editors are pretty low on resource reqs. I > have run the same kind of workloads on Win 7 and Win 10, with dozens of > command prompts. I have also had dozens of Python scripts running in > parallel in Windows command prompts, while also running hundreds of tabs > in Chrome or Firefox. I try to turn off the eye candy on all my desktop > OSes. I find the classic Windows 95/98/2000 style desktop UI to be the > most resource efficient, and to have best contrast for notification > visibility. I run 64 bit if the hardware supports it. > > > On Sat, Jul 25, 2020, 21:32 Rick Engebretson <eng at pinenet.com > <mailto:eng at pinenet.com>> wrote: > > Thank for your courtesy and new thread. > > Again, I'm quite a Linux computer bumpkin, so I'll just share my > experience for your feedback input. > > I use openSuSE linux, both 32 and 64 bit. My wife's laptop is 64 bit > Windows 7, I have a Windows 7 32bit somewhere, too. The Windows 7 64 > bit > is all but useless, even after an expensive repair. My 64 bit openSuSE > boxes mostly sit turned off. > > My web client machine (this machine) is an old core2 duo 32 bit 4gB ram > running openSuSE 13.2. My development boxes usually just run > openSuse12.2 32bit with similar hardware. > > The linux desktop was quite a pleasant surprise for me. I usually > run 10 > virtual desktops, sometimes use a virtual terminal. This all runs with > KDE or XFCE. I like XFCE because I can have dozens of open NEdit text > editors organized and stable. Currently, I'm enjoying learning ever > more > about Tcl/Tk after over 20 years. > > The KDE desktop installs with crazy amounts of "eye candy" and even has > an "Activities Manager" adding yet another dimension of UI, most likely > intended to fool your boss by quickly switching from playing to > working. > I usually unset the eye candy and set the OpenGL off and use XWindow > rendering. > > The only time I run a bunch of browser windows is on eBay or > programming > language HTML manual pages. > > But all this said, I think you are likely right about Windows GUI > efficiency. Professional video editors I know use Windows. Gamers love > Windows. > > > Haudy Kazemi wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I am splitting this topic off from the other thread, hoping that > someone > > has a solution or recommendations. > > > > My experience with Android and Windows is they both do a very good job > > in dealing with processes that become very memory or CPU hungry. The > > systems tend to stay responsive (may lag slightly, but usable), and > > recoverable (task managers can still be brought up), even under > extreme > > memory and CPU pressure. > > > > I have yet to find a desktop Linux distro that can do nearly as well. > > Chrome and Firefox both easily get into 100% CPU usage and high memory > > usage situations on desktop Linux, resulting in nonresponsive systems, > > that I don't experience on Android or Windows. These situations > are easy > > enough to hit that even novice users can experience them with only a > > handful of open tabs, depending on the sites open. (On the exact same > > hardware, Windows can run the same browser with the same or even more > > tabs and survive). With these problems, I find it hard to recommend > > Linux as a general purpose desktop OS to others or even use it as > my own > > desktop as my daily driver. Linux seems to do okay when the upper > bounds > > of the loads are well-defined and easily fit within the available > resources. > > > > Does anyone know of a distro that does as good as a job at maintaining > > resource control and desktop responsiveness under heavy load as > Android > > or Windows? I would love to hear about it. > > > > Thanks, > > > > -hk > > > > P.S. a relevant article, "Yes, Linux Does Bad In Low RAM / Memory > > Pressure Situations On The Desktop" > > > https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-Does-Bad-Low-RAM > > > > P.P.S. It appears that Android uses pressure stall information > (PSI) to > > mitigate these problems per > > post > https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/general-discussion/1118164-yes-linux-does-bad-in-low-ram-memory-pressure-situations-on-the-desktop?p=1118174#post1118174 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > > tclug-list at mn-linux.org <mailto:tclug-list at mn-linux.org> > > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org <mailto:tclug-list at mn-linux.org> > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >