The only way right now that I can see limiting bandwidth on wireless is have multiple access points into a switch that does the limiting for you. Not exactly cost effective LOL. Jon > On Fri, Jul 19, 2002 at 08:37:05AM -0500, Nick Ryberg wrote: > > Unfortunately, any solution we come up with will have the some > > limitations that cable companies face: limited bandwidth. > > I disagree. > > Bandwidth can be had because it is wireless. > > The technology of wireless today is the limiting factor for the > moment. Eventually it could change. > > > No matter how generous you feel towards your subscribers (free or > > otherwise), you're only going to have x number of megabits to share, > > and bandwidth throttling and server limitations is the easiest way > > to do that. They're probably not the _best_ way, but it's an > > option. > > 11Mbps of half duplex total is pretty limiting.. > > > Basically, by becoming a provider, we're put in the same hot seat > > that the cable execs are frying in right now. If we want to have a > > completely open network, that's really great, but how do we deal > > with exceptional problems like one of our member's websites getting > > slashdotted? That'd blow away availability for everyone else who > > simply wants to get out to the net. > > Wireless providers have nothing to do with cable providers. > > Theya re vastly different things with vastly different issues involved. > > Until wireless can have the same penetration and needs it will always > be about the lack of technology to make it work well. > > > I'm playing the devil's advocate on this one, not because I like > > trolling this list and just disagreeing with your points - honestly, > > I think it's an issue we've got to worry about. > > I am a troll :) > > I just like a good argument about real points and real issues. > > > If I had $5,000+ laying around, I'd be placing an order for my > > instant-just-add-water-ISP right now, and damn the bandwidth issues! > > - Full speed ahead!! > > I wish that could be done. > > My issues are easy: > > Technology won't scale very well right now. > > Without the ability to limit and meter will be a massive > headache for all. > > Stupid authentication systems that do not scale or written > horribly by someone who just read 'learn C in 21 days' right > after installing Linux for the first time 3 days prior. > > Lack of logging and accounting needed to charge people for > what they use. > > I'll try to be ready for the next meeting with a small agenda or list > of things I feel that need to be addressed before some business is > put together to offer such services to the masses. > > Anyone who has run an ISP will understand the issues I have laid out > above, or any business owner who is providing pure 'service' as a > product. > > -- > Mike Horwath IRC: Drechsau drechsau at Geeks.ORG > Home: 763-540-6815 1901 Sumter Ave N, Golden Valley, MN 55427 > Opinions stated in this message, or any message posted by myself > through my Geeks.ORG address, are mine and mine alone, period. > _______________________________________________ > Twin Cities Wireless Users Group Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, > Minnesota http://www.tcwug.org tcwug-list at tcwug.org > https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tcwug-list