From whtdruid at druids-grove.net Fri Feb 6 11:54:14 2004 From: whtdruid at druids-grove.net (Daniel Rysztak) Date: Tue Jan 18 11:34:22 2005 Subject: [TCWUG] older wirelss routers/AP and cable/DSL In-Reply-To: <004101c3e56a$a4a90420$0400a8c0@accrue.com> Message-ID: The answer is it depends, but most likely yes. In most situations, the older gear should work. Most Cable providers are doing basic dhcp or statics. However, some may still be associating mac's and hostnames with IP's. There shouldn't be any reason that an older piece of gear won't work as long as it attaches with a cat-5 cable in most situations. As I'm a Network Engineer for a Cable provider in the Southern Suburbs, my answer should have some validity. ============================ Daniel Rysztak, CCNA http://www.druids-grove.net/ -----Original Message----- From: tcwug-list-bounces@tcwug.org [mailto:tcwug-list-bounces@tcwug.org]On Behalf Of William Titler Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 12:48 AM To: tcwug-list@tcwug.org Subject: [TCWUG] older wirelss routers/AP and cable/DSL All, a friend of mine has asked me if he could use a one of the older (circa 2002) wireless routers or AP from Netgear or D-link that are not labeled as DSL/cable compatible with their Cable modem connection. Having setup a few networks with newer Netgear hardware and realizing that the router did have a portion of the setup that took some info from the ISP I was not sure. The other question is do you recommend a wireless router or an Access Point for single computer setups. If you are wondering why not just go with the new stuff, it is price there are some older routers/APs out their that are $20 or so. Examples are D-Link:DI-746 and NG:HE102 William Titler ________________________ William Titler | Datanautics Tel 612.823.5432 Fax 707.516.0730 william.titler@datanautics.com _______________________________________________ Twin Cities Wireless Users Group Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota http://www.tcwug.org tcwug-list@tcwug.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tcwug-list _______________________________________________ Twin Cities Wireless Users Group Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota http://www.tcwug.org tcwug-list@tcwug.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tcwug-list From benmgroup at earthlink.net Sun Feb 8 22:49:36 2004 From: benmgroup at earthlink.net (Ben Nelson) Date: Tue Jan 18 11:34:22 2005 Subject: [TCWUG] TCWUG meeting Tuesday! Message-ID: Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-------------- next part -------------- _______________________________________________ Twin Cities Wireless Users Group Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota http://www.tcwug.org tcwug-list@tcwug.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tcwug-list From dieman at ringworld.org Tue Feb 10 17:11:25 2004 From: dieman at ringworld.org (Scott Dier) Date: Tue Jan 18 11:34:22 2005 Subject: [TCWUG] Re: older wirelss routers/AP and cable/DSL In-Reply-To: References: <004101c3e56a$a4a90420$0400a8c0@accrue.com> Message-ID: <20040210230324.GH14690@ringworld.org> * Daniel Rysztak [040210 16:47]: > doing basic dhcp or statics. However, some may still be associating mac's > and hostnames with IP's. There shouldn't be any reason that an older piece AT&T/Comcast stopped doing this (MAC addresses) sometime just after at&t assilimated mediaone. :) -- Scott Dier KC0OBS http://www.ringworld.org/ -- http://www.railworks.org/ -- http://publictransportation.org/ -- Stop "playing political splat ball," support the Northstar Train! _______________________________________________ Twin Cities Wireless Users Group Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota http://www.tcwug.org tcwug-list@tcwug.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tcwug-list From nkras at visi.com Tue Feb 17 22:18:11 2004 From: nkras at visi.com (Neal Krasnoff) Date: Tue Jan 18 11:34:22 2005 Subject: [TCWUG] Volunteers Needed - Loring Park Node Audit - Frequency Coordination Message-ID: <7669788F-61C9-11D8-8FB4-000A958B32EC@visi.com> To the group: I need some one to wardrive/bike/walk the perimeter of Loring Park in the daytime to audit all operating APs within line of sight of the park. Signal strength readings and SSIDs aren't needed - channel, signal strength and location. GPS a plus. The park perimeter is defined as: starting from the MCTC Plaza, proceed south on Willow St. along the east side of the park to West 15th St., then west on West 15th St. to Hennepin Avenue, then along the west edge of the park to Harmon Place at Cafe Lurcat, down Harmon Pl. to the point of origin at MCTC Plaza. This will help with frequency coordination. Thanks, Neal nkras at visi.com _______________________________________________ Twin Cities Wireless Users Group Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota http://www.tcwug.org tcwug-list@tcwug.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tcwug-list From hoff0438 at umn.edu Wed Feb 18 11:25:00 2004 From: hoff0438 at umn.edu (John T. Hoffoss) Date: Tue Jan 18 11:34:22 2005 Subject: [TCWUG] Volunteers Needed - Loring Park Node Audit - FrequencyCoordination In-Reply-To: <7669788F-61C9-11D8-8FB4-000A958B32EC@visi.com> Message-ID: I did this a week ago at night with my roomate. We'll throw a map together and throw it somewhere for the WUG to look at. J > -----Original Message----- > From: tcwug-list-bounces@tcwug.org > [mailto:tcwug-list-bounces@tcwug.org] On Behalf Of Neal Krasnoff > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 10:18 PM > To: WIRELESS > Subject: [TCWUG] Volunteers Needed - Loring Park Node Audit - > FrequencyCoordination > > > To the group: > > I need some one to wardrive/bike/walk the perimeter of > Loring Park > in the daytime to audit all operating APs within line of sight of the > park. Signal strength readings and SSIDs aren't needed - channel, > signal strength and location. GPS a plus. The park perimeter > is defined > as: starting from the MCTC Plaza, proceed south on Willow St. > along the > east side of the park to West 15th St., then west on West 15th St. to > Hennepin Avenue, then along the west edge of the park to Harmon Place > at Cafe Lurcat, down Harmon Pl. to the point of origin at MCTC Plaza. > > This will help with frequency coordination. > > Thanks, > Neal > nkras at visi.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Twin Cities Wireless Users Group Mailing List - > Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota http://www.tcwug.org > tcwug-list@tcwug.org > https://mailman.real-> time.com/mailman/listinfo/tcwug-list > _______________________________________________ Twin Cities Wireless Users Group Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota http://www.tcwug.org tcwug-list@tcwug.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tcwug-list From spencer at autonomous.tv Wed Feb 18 11:25:26 2004 From: spencer at autonomous.tv (Spencer Butler) Date: Tue Jan 18 11:34:22 2005 Subject: [TCWUG] Volunteers Needed - Loring Park Node Audit - Frequency Coordination In-Reply-To: <7669788F-61C9-11D8-8FB4-000A958B32EC@visi.com> References: <7669788F-61C9-11D8-8FB4-000A958B32EC@visi.com> Message-ID: <20040218172526.GE3096@autonomous.tv> Skipped content of type multipart/signed-------------- next part -------------- _______________________________________________ Twin Cities Wireless Users Group Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota http://www.tcwug.org tcwug-list@tcwug.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tcwug-list From cncole at earthlink.net Wed Feb 18 14:45:30 2004 From: cncole at earthlink.net (Chuck Cole) Date: Tue Jan 18 11:34:22 2005 Subject: [TCWUG] Problems with SurfThing Message-ID: When the Blaster virus hit, the Twin Cities broadband path from Time Warner cable to Earthlink's "smtpauth" got hosed up or taken down for repair etc. During that couple of weeks, I could not get outbound email connections from Dunn Brothers two sites in Dakota County, but inbound and web was fine. I think I had "transient success" several days last week, but it's out solidly now and my system is fine elsewhere and Earthlink upper level tech support sees no problems for my account or their universe (we proved it's not me or them). Outbound is working for some folks who use a different ISP when it doesn't work for me. Anybody know what's going on? Do other SurfThing sites have this loss of functionality? I haven't had a chance to visit others yet. Chuck _______________________________________________ Twin Cities Wireless Users Group Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota http://www.tcwug.org tcwug-list@tcwug.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tcwug-list From hank at tovarich.com Wed Feb 18 16:13:37 2004 From: hank at tovarich.com (Hank Anderson) Date: Tue Jan 18 11:34:22 2005 Subject: [TCWUG] Volunteers Needed - Loring Park Node Audit -FrequencyCoordination In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <00be01c3f66c$75761680$1500a8c0@hpa> There are about 1000 access points in the log files from that night. I'll try to pick out the relevant ones and put together an XML file and a map. Here is where we calculated the location of the tcwug AP (I think it might be off a bit): http://tiger.census.gov/cgi-bin/mapper/map.gif?&lat=44.9698083838&lon=-9 3.2847122017&ht=0.01&wid=0.01&&on=CITIES&on=majroads&on=places&on=railro ad&on=streets&on=interstate&on=statehwy&on=ushwy&tlevel=-&tvar=-&tmeth=i &mlat=44.9698083838&mlon=-93.2847122017&msym=redpin&mlabel=00:0D:88:AD:4 7:27 We were driving from about 9pm-11pm (February 12th), according to the logs, so it's possible missed some that are on during business hours. -Hank Anderson -----Original Message----- From: tcwug-list-bounces@tcwug.org [mailto:tcwug-list-bounces@tcwug.org] On Behalf Of John T. Hoffoss Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 11:25 AM To: 'Twin Cities Wireless Users Group List' Subject: RE: [TCWUG] Volunteers Needed - Loring Park Node Audit -FrequencyCoordination I did this a week ago at night with my roomate. We'll throw a map together and throw it somewhere for the WUG to look at. J > -----Original Message----- > From: tcwug-list-bounces@tcwug.org > [mailto:tcwug-list-bounces@tcwug.org] On Behalf Of Neal Krasnoff > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 10:18 PM > To: WIRELESS > Subject: [TCWUG] Volunteers Needed - Loring Park Node Audit - > FrequencyCoordination > > > To the group: > > I need some one to wardrive/bike/walk the perimeter of > Loring Park > in the daytime to audit all operating APs within line of sight of the > park. Signal strength readings and SSIDs aren't needed - channel, > signal strength and location. GPS a plus. The park perimeter > is defined > as: starting from the MCTC Plaza, proceed south on Willow St. > along the > east side of the park to West 15th St., then west on West 15th St. to > Hennepin Avenue, then along the west edge of the park to Harmon Place > at Cafe Lurcat, down Harmon Pl. to the point of origin at MCTC Plaza. > > This will help with frequency coordination. > > Thanks, > Neal > nkras at visi.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Twin Cities Wireless Users Group Mailing List - > Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota http://www.tcwug.org > tcwug-list@tcwug.org > https://mailman.real-> time.com/mailman/listinfo/tcwug-list > _______________________________________________ Twin Cities Wireless Users Group Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota http://www.tcwug.org tcwug-list@tcwug.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tcwug-list _______________________________________________ Twin Cities Wireless Users Group Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota http://www.tcwug.org tcwug-list@tcwug.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tcwug-list From nkras at visi.com Wed Feb 18 17:04:38 2004 From: nkras at visi.com (Neal Krasnoff) Date: Tue Jan 18 11:34:22 2005 Subject: [TCWUG] Volunteers Needed - Loring Park Node Audit - Frequency Coordination In-Reply-To: <20040218172526.GE3096@autonomous.tv> References: <7669788F-61C9-11D8-8FB4-000A958B32EC@visi.com> <20040218172526.GE3096@autonomous.tv> Message-ID: Whenever you can start - the sooner the better. Data required: 1. Channel 2. Location where the signal was detected. Neal On Feb 18, 2004, at 11:25 AM, Spencer Butler wrote: > When did you want to start doing this? I currently do not have a gps, > but I can certainly do a little walking in the park. _______________________________________________ Twin Cities Wireless Users Group Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota http://www.tcwug.org tcwug-list@tcwug.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tcwug-list From nkras at visi.com Wed Feb 18 17:08:24 2004 From: nkras at visi.com (Neal Krasnoff) Date: Tue Jan 18 11:34:22 2005 Subject: [TCWUG] Volunteers Needed - Loring Park Node Audit -FrequencyCoordination In-Reply-To: <00be01c3f66c$75761680$1500a8c0@hpa> References: <00be01c3f66c$75761680$1500a8c0@hpa> Message-ID: <5AA97370-6267-11D8-906D-000A958B32EC@visi.com> On Feb 18, 2004, at 4:13 PM, Hank Anderson wrote: > > We were driving from about 9pm-11pm (February 12th), according to the > logs, so it's possible missed some that are on during business hours. > > -Hank Anderson > > Thanks. You can email it to me directly. Neal nkras at visi.com _______________________________________________ Twin Cities Wireless Users Group Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota http://www.tcwug.org tcwug-list@tcwug.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tcwug-list From benmgroup at earthlink.net Wed Feb 18 18:00:11 2004 From: benmgroup at earthlink.net (Ben Nelson) Date: Tue Jan 18 11:34:23 2005 Subject: [TCWUG] TCWUG meeting notes 2/10 Message-ID: Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-------------- next part -------------- _______________________________________________ Twin Cities Wireless Users Group Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota http://www.tcwug.org tcwug-list@tcwug.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tcwug-list From spencer at autonomous.tv Thu Feb 19 10:16:09 2004 From: spencer at autonomous.tv (Spencer Butler) Date: Tue Jan 18 11:34:23 2005 Subject: [TCWUG] Volunteers Needed - Loring Park Node Audit - Frequency Coordination In-Reply-To: References: <7669788F-61C9-11D8-8FB4-000A958B32EC@visi.com> <20040218172526.GE3096@autonomous.tv> Message-ID: <20040219161609.GF3096@autonomous.tv> Skipped content of type multipart/signed-------------- next part -------------- _______________________________________________ Twin Cities Wireless Users Group Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota http://www.tcwug.org tcwug-list@tcwug.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tcwug-list From Andrew at azimmer.com Thu Feb 19 10:57:20 2004 From: Andrew at azimmer.com (Andrew Zimmer) Date: Tue Jan 18 11:34:23 2005 Subject: [TCWUG] Volunteers Needed - Loring Park Node Audit - FrequencyCoordination Message-ID: <68F0957A0138144F8BEA856310C6CF6C913C@cilantro.AZimmer.local> We should setup a time to meet in Loring Park. I have a kismet box and a gps. I'm also setting up another laptop and know someone who has a gps we should be able to borrow. ________________________________ From: tcwug-list-bounces@tcwug.org on behalf of Spencer Butler Sent: Thu 2/19/2004 10:30 AM To: Twin Cities Wireless Users Group List Subject: Re: [TCWUG] Volunteers Needed - Loring Park Node Audit - FrequencyCoordination On Wed, Feb 18, 2004 at 05:04:38PM -0600, Neal Krasnoff wrote: >Whenever you can start - the sooner the better. > >Data required: > >1. Channel >2. Location where the signal was detected. > Number one is no problem. Number two poses a bit of a problem without a GPS. I will see if I can find one to borrow. -- Linux Administrator || Technology Specialist || Wifi Engineer http://autonomous.tv/~spencer/resume/ || spencer@autonomous.tv Key fingerprint = 173B 8760 E59F DBF8 6FD2 68F8 ABA2 AB08 49C7 4754 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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