From sulrich at botwerks.org Sat Feb 5 20:48:46 2005 From: sulrich at botwerks.org (steve ulrich) Date: Sat Feb 5 20:49:51 2005 Subject: [tcwug-list] administravia: oreilly & assoc. newsletter (03-feb, 2005) Message-ID: <20050206024846.GA4831@botwerks.org> latest iteration of the ora newsletter. see attached. -- steve ulrich sulrich@botwerks.org PGP: 8D0B 0EE9 E700 A6CF ABA7 AE5F 4FD4 07C9 133B FAFC -------------- next part -------------- ================================================================ O'Reilly UG Program News--Just for User Group Leaders February 3, 2005 ================================================================ -Tons of Promotional Materials Available for Your Group -Safari Affiliate Program for User Groups ---------------------------------------------------------------- Book Info ---------------------------------------------------------------- ***Review books are available Copies of our books are available for your members to review-- send me an email and please include the book's ISBN number on your request. 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Upon completion of the series, students receive a Certificate of Professional Development from the University of Illinois Office of Continuing Education. Sign up by February 22nd, and save 40% on all Web Programming Certificate courses. http://www.oreilly.com/redirector.csp?link=UAWeb&type=news ***A-Z Web Site Indexes Explained A-Z Indexes are a far more accurate than search engines for searching the content of a web site or intranet. For the value they can bring to a site, A-Z indexes are worth the additional cost, but, if you decide to add an index to your site, it's important to find the right person to do the job. http://www.sitepoint.com/article/a-z-indexes ================================================ >From Your Peers =============================================== Don't forget to check out the O'Reilly UG wiki to see what user groups across the globe are up to: http://wiki.oreillynet.com/usergroups/index.cgi Until next time-- Marsee From kaze0010 at umn.edu Mon Feb 7 14:19:38 2005 From: kaze0010 at umn.edu (Haudy Kazemi) Date: Mon Feb 7 14:20:07 2005 Subject: [tcwug-list] [TCWUG] Feb Meeting question In-Reply-To: <41DE1E9B.3000800@digitalguy.net> Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.20050207141938.0243e9c8@kaze0010.email.umn.edu> Is there a meeting tomorrow? The website suggests there is. I've got it on my calendar to be there myself. -hk At 11:31 PM 1/6/2005 -0600, you wrote: >I've reserved the upstairs meeting room for this next Tuesday (January >11th) from 6-7pm for our next meeting. > >Please bring any wireless questions that you have or any topics that you >wish to discuss to the meeting as there is no formal agenda. > >Location: >--------- >Dunn Bros >201 3rd Avenue >Minneapolis, MN 55401 >612-692-8530 >(on the same block as the Milwaukee Road Depot hotel and skating rink) > >Map and directions: http://tinyurl.com/79jt > >Limited parking behind the building, plenty of on-street parking near-by. > > >I hope to see you all there. > >Jeff Lehman > > >-- >No virus found in this outgoing message. >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.8 - Release Date: 1/3/2005 > > >_______________________________________________ >Twin Cities Wireless Users Group Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >http://www.tcwug.org >tcwug-list@tcwug.org >https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tcwug-list > > From kaze0010 at umn.edu Mon Feb 7 14:29:52 2005 From: kaze0010 at umn.edu (Haudy Kazemi) Date: Mon Feb 7 14:35:06 2005 Subject: [tcwug-list] [TCWUG] 14 strange messages (No subject) in the mailing list archives Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.20050207142952.025f1e00@kaze0010.email.umn.edu> Hi, I was browsing the tcwug mailing list archives here: http://shadowknight.real-time.com/pipermail/tcwug-list/2005-January/thread.h tml and saw 14 'No subject' posts that never made it into my mailbox. On top of that, these posts have no headers to speak of identifying the senders. (The body of the messages are present, and some senders are identifiable in there.) Is this related to the list server upgrade? Did some messages get unstuck from some queue? -hk From thegeekguy at gmail.com Tue Feb 8 16:50:13 2005 From: thegeekguy at gmail.com (David Newberger) Date: Tue Feb 8 16:55:16 2005 Subject: [tcwug-list] Tonights Meeting Message-ID: Hi, I'm wondering if there is a meeting tonight or not? -- Blog: http://www.davidnewberger.com/wp Bloglines: http://www.bloglines.com/public/DavidNewberger From kaze0010 at umn.edu Tue Feb 8 17:11:38 2005 From: kaze0010 at umn.edu (Haudy Kazemi) Date: Tue Feb 8 17:15:16 2005 Subject: [tcwug-list] Tonights Meeting In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.20050208171138.025f1e00@kaze0010.email.umn.edu> I am going to go to Dunn Bros for the meeting...I don't know if I'll see anyone there or not. At 04:50 PM 2/8/2005 -0600, David Newberger wrote: >Hi, > >I'm wondering if there is a meeting tonight or not? >-- >Blog: http://www.davidnewberger.com/wp >Bloglines: http://www.bloglines.com/public/DavidNewberger > >_______________________________________________ >Twin Cities Wireless Users Group Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >tcwug-list@tcwug.org >http://mailman.tcwug.org/mailman/listinfo/tcwug-list > > From cschlough at na.cokecce.com Tue Feb 15 10:53:08 2005 From: cschlough at na.cokecce.com (cschlough@na.cokecce.com) Date: Tue Feb 15 11:06:25 2005 Subject: [tcwug-list] surprising? Minneapolis named top tech city Message-ID: March 2005 issue of Popular Science names Minneapolis the top tech city. http://www.popsci.com/popsci/ 1. Minneapolis 2. Atlanta 3. Washington, D.C. 4. Boston 5. San Diego 6. Chicago 7. Columbus, OH 8. Raleigh, N.C. 9. Seattle 10. Houston The publication analyzed more than more than 125 cities to find out which is most wired. The magazine surveyed academics, scientists, government officials, think-tanks and market researchers in formulating its list, it said in a news release. It also gathered information from the Census Bureau, the National Science Foundation and the Department of Transportation. Cities were analyzed and ranked according to a range of broad criteria such as how connected the citizenry are, which includes the use of cell phones, computers and the number of Wi-Fi hotspots. The magazine also looked at transportation innovation, the number of high-tech jobs per capita and the use of technology in education. The use of energy and the areas' medical and emergency response systems were also evaluated. Chris Schlough From poptix at techmonkeys.org Tue Feb 15 15:48:42 2005 From: poptix at techmonkeys.org (Matthew S. Hallacy) Date: Tue Feb 15 19:36:28 2005 Subject: [tcwug-list] surprising? Minneapolis named top tech city In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20050215214842.GR3913@momentum.poptix.net> If Minneapolis is #1 I'm moving to Japan, On Tue, Feb 15, 2005 at 10:53:08AM -0600, cschlough@na.cokecce.com wrote: > March 2005 issue of Popular Science names Minneapolis the top tech city. > http://www.popsci.com/popsci/ > > 1. Minneapolis > 2. Atlanta > 3. Washington, D.C. > 4. Boston > 5. San Diego > 6. Chicago > 7. Columbus, OH > 8. Raleigh, N.C. > 9. Seattle > 10. Houston > -- Matthew S. Hallacy FUBAR, LART, BOFH Certified http://www.poptix.net GPG public key 0x01938203 From dieman at ringworld.org Tue Feb 15 21:06:31 2005 From: dieman at ringworld.org (Scott Dier) Date: Tue Feb 15 21:11:29 2005 Subject: [tcwug-list] Re: surprising? Minneapolis named top tech city In-Reply-To: <20050215214842.GR3913@momentum.poptix.net> References: <20050215214842.GR3913@momentum.poptix.net> Message-ID: <20050216030629.GB10910@ringworld.org> Wow, thats pretty creepy. My guess is its all the biotech. Don't worry, some nanotech alley will be taking it away from us RSN. * Matthew S. Hallacy [050215 19:40]: > If Minneapolis is #1 I'm moving to Japan, > > > On Tue, Feb 15, 2005 at 10:53:08AM -0600, cschlough@na.cokecce.com wrote: > > March 2005 issue of Popular Science names Minneapolis the top tech city. > > http://www.popsci.com/popsci/ > > > > 1. Minneapolis > > 2. Atlanta > > 3. Washington, D.C. > > 4. Boston > > 5. San Diego > > 6. Chicago > > 7. Columbus, OH > > 8. Raleigh, N.C. > > 9. Seattle > > 10. Houston > > > > -- > Matthew S. Hallacy FUBAR, LART, BOFH Certified > http://www.poptix.net GPG public key 0x01938203 > > > _______________________________________________ > Twin Cities Wireless Users Group Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tcwug-list@tcwug.org > http://mailman.tcwug.org/mailman/listinfo/tcwug-list > -- Scott Dier KC0OBS http://www.ringworld.org/ -- http://www.railworks.org/ -- http://publictransportation.org/ -- Stop "playing political splat ball," support the Northstar Train! From poptix at poptix.net Tue Feb 15 15:48:42 2005 From: poptix at poptix.net (Matthew S. Hallacy) Date: Tue Feb 15 23:39:44 2005 Subject: [tcwug-list] surprising? Minneapolis named top tech city In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20050215214842.GR3913@momentum.poptix.net> If Minneapolis is #1 I'm moving to Japan, On Tue, Feb 15, 2005 at 10:53:08AM -0600, cschlough@na.cokecce.com wrote: > March 2005 issue of Popular Science names Minneapolis the top tech city. > http://www.popsci.com/popsci/ > > 1. Minneapolis > 2. Atlanta > 3. Washington, D.C. > 4. Boston > 5. San Diego > 6. Chicago > 7. Columbus, OH > 8. Raleigh, N.C. > 9. Seattle > 10. Houston > -- Matthew S. Hallacy FUBAR, LART, BOFH Certified http://www.poptix.net GPG public key 0x01938203 From mellsworth at stratvantage.com Thu Feb 17 09:12:53 2005 From: mellsworth at stratvantage.com (Mike Ellsworth) Date: Thu Feb 17 09:16:44 2005 Subject: [tcwug-list] Re: surprising? Minneapolis named top tech city Message-ID: The mention of nanotech gives me the opening to plug Minnesota Entrepreneurs' next event, March 8th (sadly the second Tuesday, just like TCWUG meetings) on nanotechnology. Details at: www.mn-entrepreneurs.org I see no reason why the Twin Cities can't be big in nanotech, especially with all the biotech here. Mike Ellsworth The WiMAX Guys, LLC StratVantage Consulting, LLC 952-525-1584 mellsworth@stratvantage.com www.StratVantage.com www.TheWiMAXGuys.com Get a free one-hour wireless network evaluation. Forward this message to freebie@theWiMAXGuys.com "The freedom which we enjoy in our government extends also to our ordinary life. There, far from exercising a jealous surveillance over each other, we do not feel called upon to be angry with our neighbor for doing what he likes." Pericles, 431 B.C. -----Original Message----- From: tcwug-list-bounces@tcwug.org [mailto:tcwug-list-bounces@tcwug.org] On Behalf Of Scott Dier Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 9:07 PM To: Matthew S. Hallacy Cc: tcwug-list@tcwug.org Subject: [tcwug-list] Re: surprising? Minneapolis named top tech city Wow, thats pretty creepy. My guess is its all the biotech. Don't worry, some nanotech alley will be taking it away from us RSN. * Matthew S. Hallacy [050215 19:40]: > If Minneapolis is #1 I'm moving to Japan, > > > On Tue, Feb 15, 2005 at 10:53:08AM -0600, cschlough@na.cokecce.com wrote: > > March 2005 issue of Popular Science names Minneapolis the top tech city. > > http://www.popsci.com/popsci/ > > > > 1. Minneapolis > > 2. Atlanta > > 3. Washington, D.C. > > 4. Boston > > 5. San Diego > > 6. Chicago > > 7. Columbus, OH > > 8. Raleigh, N.C. > > 9. Seattle > > 10. Houston > > > > -- > Matthew S. Hallacy FUBAR, LART, BOFH Certified > http://www.poptix.net GPG public key 0x01938203 > > > _______________________________________________ > Twin Cities Wireless Users Group Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tcwug-list@tcwug.org > http://mailman.tcwug.org/mailman/listinfo/tcwug-list > -- Scott Dier KC0OBS http://www.ringworld.org/ -- http://www.railworks.org/ -- http://publictransportation.org/ -- Stop "playing political splat ball," support the Northstar Train! _______________________________________________ Twin Cities Wireless Users Group Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota tcwug-list@tcwug.org http://mailman.tcwug.org/mailman/listinfo/tcwug-list --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.854 / Virus Database: 582 - Release Date: 2/3/2005 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.854 / Virus Database: 582 - Release Date: 2/3/2005 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.854 / Virus Database: 582 - Release Date: 2/3/2005 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.854 / Virus Database: 582 - Release Date: 2/3/2005 From benmgroup at earthlink.net Thu Feb 17 11:06:32 2005 From: benmgroup at earthlink.net (Ben Nelson) Date: Thu Feb 17 11:11:46 2005 Subject: [tcwug-list] MCAI meeting invitation In-Reply-To: <000801c51377$e8c9c360$0500a8c0@Canopus> Message-ID: All, I received this invitation from Brent Koetter of MCAI. Anyone interested in taking him up on his offer? This could be a good opportunity to promote TCWUG. Perhaps interested parties could post to the list, and then coordinate with Brent directly? -- Ben Nelson 612.685.9116 cell benmgroup@earthlink.net ------ Forwarded Message From: "Brent Koetter" Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 10:03:37 -0600 To: Subject: TCWUG Information Greetings, My name is Brent Koetter and I am Co-Chai of the MCAI Minnesota Chapter. We are currently working on our monthly meeting for February and choose Wireless Technology as our topic. We were wondering if there were anyone in your organization that would be willing to present information to our group. This would be an incredible oppertunity since our membership does include corporate clients like Best Buy, Comcast, and General Mills. Please let me know if this is something that someone from the Twin Cities Wireless User Group would be interested in doing. The meeting is Wed. February 23rd at implex.net development center. 120 s 6th St. Minneapolis. Thank You and I hope to hear from you soon. ---------------------------------- Brent Koetter LVI Media Productions 651-292-9325 Brent@LVIMedia.com www.LVIMedia.com ------ End of Forwarded Message -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://shadowknight.real-time.com/pipermail/tcwug-list/attachments/20050217/adc33514/attachment.htm From benmgroup at earthlink.net Thu Feb 17 11:13:59 2005 From: benmgroup at earthlink.net (Ben Nelson) Date: Thu Feb 17 11:18:18 2005 Subject: [tcwug-list] info@tcwug.org Message-ID: All, I?ve been receiving and answering queries to info@tcwug for a while, and the time has come to pass it along. The address receives aprox. 4-5 messages a month; mostly from people asking about who can attend meetings, other groups looking for info about activities, and the occasional press inquiry. Perhaps someone with a more regular attendance at the meetings could be responsible for the account? Please post to the list and/or contact me directly if you?re able to take up this task. If there are multiple interested parties, we?ll figure something out. B -- Ben Nelson 612.685.9116 cell benmgroup@earthlink.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://shadowknight.real-time.com/pipermail/tcwug-list/attachments/20050217/38a570a7/attachment.html From kaze0010 at umn.edu Thu Feb 17 16:45:49 2005 From: kaze0010 at umn.edu (Haudy Kazemi) Date: Thu Feb 17 16:51:49 2005 Subject: [tcwug-list] info@tcwug.org In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.20050217164549.021ce9f0@kaze0010.email.umn.edu> Perhaps info@tcwug could be forwarded to the list? If that doesn't sound like a good idea I'll offer to take the messages. Also, should TCWUG meetings be rescheduled to a new date/time? I didn't see anyone at the Feb meeting. Initially I'll suggest moving it to a Saturday after the TCLUG meetings... At 11:13 AM 2/17/2005 -0600, Ben Nelson wrote: >>>> All, Ive been receiving and answering queries to info@tcwug for a while, and the time has come to pass it along. The address receives aprox. 4-5 messages a month; mostly from people asking about who can attend meetings, other groups looking for info about activities, and the occasional press inquiry. Perhaps someone with a more regular attendance at the meetings could be responsible for the account? Please post to the list and/or contact me directly if youre able to take up this task. If there are multiple interested parties, well figure something out. B -- Ben Nelson 612.685.9116 cell benmgroup@earthlink.net _______________________________________________ Twin Cities Wireless Users Group Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota tcwug-list@tcwug.org http://mailman.tcwug.org/mailman/listinfo/tcwug-list <<<< From mjbird at clavdivs.org Fri Feb 18 06:33:51 2005 From: mjbird at clavdivs.org (Michael J. Bird) Date: Fri Feb 18 06:35:05 2005 Subject: [tcwug-list] Meeting times In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.20050217164549.021ce9f0@kaze0010.email.umn.edu> References: <3.0.5.32.20050217164549.021ce9f0@kaze0010.email.umn.edu> Message-ID: <4215E0AF.5080404@clavdivs.org> Saturday bad. Very bad. Some of us have lives and wives! Too many things happen on Saturday night. It's why the TV lineup is so bad on Saturdays! I just happened to be busy during the last meeting. Tuesday or Thursday is the best night for me. Someplace with free parking would be nice, but I understand the need for availability of public transportation for those who do not drive. I know about parking behind the coffee shop, but that is often full. This is not keeping me away, I'm just taking the opportunity to kvetch. Mike Bird mjbird@clavdivs.nobulkemail.org Remove the nobulkemail from the above address. Haudy Kazemi wrote: > Perhaps info@tcwug could be forwarded to the list? If that doesn't sound > like a good idea I'll offer to take the messages. Also, should TCWUG > meetings be rescheduled to a new date/time? I didn't see anyone at the Feb > meeting. Initially I'll suggest moving it to a Saturday after the TCLUG > meetings... > From sulrich at botwerks.org Fri Feb 18 09:42:03 2005 From: sulrich at botwerks.org (steve ulrich) Date: Fri Feb 18 09:56:57 2005 Subject: [tcwug-list] Meeting times (Modified by steve ulrich) Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 bah - my mind is still hardwired for reply-to => list on this list. - -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Feb 18, 2005, at 6:33 AM, Michael J. Bird wrote: > Saturday bad. Very bad. Some of us have lives and wives! Too many > things happen on Saturday night. It's why the TV lineup is so bad on > Saturdays! > > I just happened to be busy during the last meeting. Tuesday or > Thursday is the best night for me. Someplace with free parking would > be nice, but I understand the need for availability of public > transportation for those who do not drive. I know about parking behind > the coffee shop, but that is often full. This is not keeping me away, > I'm just taking the opportunity to kvetch. i know that the parking situation is a bit of a downer for folks. but i can't help but wonder if the fact that this is on a weeknight is an issue for folks. i know that i can rarely make a meeting with my travel schedule for work. i know that a weekend meeting would be something that i could squeeze in between errands. it's been a while since i've been to a LUG user group meeting, candidly the topics have been fairly remedial, but the turnout seems to be good. compelling content and a different meeting time might help attendance. i'd be happy to help on the content side of things if there were a meeting that worked for me from an attendance perspective. :) {snipped - misc. signatures} > Haudy Kazemi wrote: >> Perhaps info@tcwug could be forwarded to the list? If that doesn't >> sound >> like a good idea I'll offer to take the messages. Also, should TCWUG >> meetings be rescheduled to a new date/time? I didn't see anyone at >> the Feb >> meeting. Initially I'll suggest moving it to a Saturday after the >> TCLUG >> meetings... {snipped - misc. signatures} - - -- steve ulrich sulrich@botwerks.org PGP: 8D0B 0EE9 E700 A6CF ABA7 AE5F 4FD4 07C9 133B FAFC - -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCFgzOT9QHyRM7+vwRAmm2AKC/p3lfJG65VDtFJR+JWI+jqVOUAQCgohDe YBg/BklzyhGfxAQ5Fhsxq1I= =5gvh - -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCFg6mT9QHyRM7+vwRAmZIAKDSEbrH0NJ0ShwvPV3+MIgEYoiFkQCgq1TL /jmhAT9hPAri6++Obpw9Jw4= =qyEf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From chris at feyen.net Tue Feb 22 12:39:52 2005 From: chris at feyen.net (Chris Feyen) Date: Tue Feb 22 12:42:36 2005 Subject: [tcwug-list] Netgear WG302 Message-ID: <20050222183952.12557.qmail@web54110.mail.yahoo.com> I have a new Netgear WG302 but it doesn't hold a connection to it over a couple of days of activity. I find that it works best when I power cycle it every morning. In hopes of getting this access point reliable, I have updgraded the firmware to 3.0.4 (Nov 15 2004) . Does anyone else have the same access point and found it to be reliable? Or at least found a fix for it? Thanks. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://shadowknight.real-time.com/pipermail/tcwug-list/attachments/20050222/c4919644/attachment.htm From mail at RobWentworth.com Tue Feb 22 13:57:36 2005 From: mail at RobWentworth.com (Rob Wentworth) Date: Tue Feb 22 14:02:36 2005 Subject: [tcwug-list] Netgear WG302 References: <20050222183952.12557.qmail@web54110.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <002101c51918$c1cf3960$0a00a8c0@server> Some access points have been known to be more reliable if you turn off (or minimize) logging, due to large logs consuming RAM that is needed for stability. Try turning off logging in your WAP for awhile to see if that increased the mean time between required power cycling,,, Alternatively, review and clear the logs daily (or automate this function to download and clear the logs several times per day). ----- Original Message ----- From: Chris Feyen To: tcwug-list@tcwug.org Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 12:39 PM Subject: [tcwug-list] Netgear WG302 I have a new Netgear WG302 but it doesn't hold a connection to it over a couple of days of activity. I find that it works best when I power cycle it every morning. In hopes of getting this access point reliable, I have updgraded the firmware to 3.0.4 (Nov 15 2004) . Does anyone else have the same access point and found it to be reliable? Or at least found a fix for it? Thanks. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Twin Cities Wireless Users Group Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota tcwug-list@tcwug.org http://mailman.tcwug.org/mailman/listinfo/tcwug-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://shadowknight.real-time.com/pipermail/tcwug-list/attachments/20050222/0eabe317/attachment.html From mail at RobWentworth.com Tue Feb 22 17:32:45 2005 From: mail at RobWentworth.com (Rob Wentworth) Date: Tue Feb 22 17:37:38 2005 Subject: [tcwug-list] Netgear WG302 References: <20050222183952.12557.qmail@web54110.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <002401c51936$d05c1070$0a00a8c0@server> I downloaded the PDF manual. Page 4-3 says: "You may click Refresh to update the display or Click Save As. To save the log contents into a file on your PC, click Save As and save the file to a disk drive." Here is the WG302 ver 3.0.4 support page (firmware, but no manual): http://kbserver.netgear.com/support_details.asp?dnldID=874 Here is the WG302 ver 3.0.0 manual download (newest available): http://kbserver.netgear.com/support_details.asp?dnldID=835 ----- Reference Manual for the NETGEAR ProSafe Wireless Access Point 802.11g WG302 Using Syslog and Activity Log Information The Information contains the activity log link you can use for setting up a syslog server and viewing activity log information. From the main menu of the browser interface, under the Information heading, click the Station List link to view the list, shown below. [IMAGE] Figure 4-2: Syslog and Activity Log information Enable the SysLog option if you have a SysLog server on your LAN. If enabled, you must enter the IP address of your SysLog server and the port number your SysLog server is configured to use. * SysLog Server IP address: The access point will send all the SysLog to the specified IP address if SysLog option is enabled. Default: 0.0.0.0 * Port: The port number configured in the SysLog server on your LAN. Default: 514 The Activity Log Window displays the Access Point system activity. You may click Refresh to update the display or Click Save As. To save the log contents into a file on your PC, click Save As and save the file to a disk drive. Management 4-3 September 2004 ----- ----- Original Message ----- From: Chris Feyen To: Rob Wentworth Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 2:47 PM Subject: Re: [tcwug-list] Netgear WG302 This AP doesn't seem to have the option to turn off logging, or to clean it out. Rob Wentworth wrote: Some access points have been known to be more reliable if you turn off (or minimize) logging, due to large logs consuming RAM that is needed for stability. Try turning off logging in your WAP for awhile to see if that increased the mean time between required power cycling,,, Alternatively, review and clear the logs daily (or automate this function to download and clear the logs several times per day). ----- Original Message ----- From: Chris Feyen To: tcwug-list@tcwug.org Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 12:39 PM Subject: [tcwug-list] Netgear WG302 I have a new Netgear WG302 but it doesn't hold a connection to it over a couple of days of activity. I find that it works best when I power cycle it every morning. In hopes of getting this access point reliable, I have updgraded the firmware to 3.0.4 (Nov 15 2004) . Does anyone else have the same access point and found it to be reliable? Or at least found a fix for it? Thanks. _______________________________________________ Twin Cities Wireless Users Group Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota tcwug-list@tcwug.org http://mailman.tcwug.org/mailman/listinfo/tcwug-list From mail at RobWentworth.com Tue Feb 22 18:03:05 2005 From: mail at RobWentworth.com (Rob Wentworth) Date: Tue Feb 22 18:07:39 2005 Subject: [tcwug-list] Netgear WG302 References: <20050222183952.12557.qmail@web54110.mail.yahoo.com> <002401c51936$d05c1070$0a00a8c0@server> Message-ID: <000d01c5193b$0cac4af0$0a00a8c0@server> Okay, I spent more time browsing the manual. All I can find is that you can view and save the log file to a hard disk, and / or send it to a syslog server. I do not see where to disable the log (menu or CLI commands), or to clear it. You could ask NetGear tech support... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob Wentworth" To: ; Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 5:32 PM Subject: Re: [tcwug-list] Netgear WG302 >I downloaded the PDF manual. Page 4-3 says: > "You may click Refresh to update the display or Click Save As. To save the > log contents into a file on your PC, click Save As and save the file to a > disk drive." ------ > This AP doesn't seem to have the option to turn off logging, or to clean > it out. ------ > I have a new Netgear WG302 but it doesn't hold a connection to it over a > couple of days of activity. I find that it works best when I power cycle > it every morning. From chris at feyen.net Wed Feb 23 08:18:40 2005 From: chris at feyen.net (Chris Feyen) Date: Wed Feb 23 08:22:43 2005 Subject: [tcwug-list] Netgear WG302 In-Reply-To: <000d01c5193b$0cac4af0$0a00a8c0@server> Message-ID: <20050223141840.1188.qmail@web54107.mail.yahoo.com> Thanks for checking. --- Rob Wentworth wrote: > Okay, I spent more time browsing the manual. All I can find is > that you can > view and save the log file to a hard disk, and / or send it to > a syslog > server. I do not see where to disable the log (menu or CLI > commands), or to > clear it. You could ask NetGear tech support... > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rob Wentworth" > To: ; > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 5:32 PM > Subject: Re: [tcwug-list] Netgear WG302 > > > >I downloaded the PDF manual. Page 4-3 says: > > "You may click Refresh to update the display or Click Save > As. To save the > > log contents into a file on your PC, click Save As and save > the file to a > > disk drive." > > ------ > > > This AP doesn't seem to have the option to turn off logging, > or to clean > > it out. > > ------ > > > I have a new Netgear WG302 but it doesn't hold a connection > to it over a > > couple of days of activity. I find that it works best when > I power cycle > > it every morning. > > > > > From chris at feyen.net Wed Feb 23 14:04:48 2005 From: chris at feyen.net (Chris Feyen) Date: Wed Feb 23 14:07:46 2005 Subject: [tcwug-list] Netgear WG302 In-Reply-To: <000d01c5193b$0cac4af0$0a00a8c0@server> Message-ID: <20050223200449.51273.qmail@web54110.mail.yahoo.com> I have registered with Netgear and created a trouble ticket, but I have not heard back from them yet. Hopefully they will get back to me this week. --- Rob Wentworth wrote: > Okay, I spent more time browsing the manual. All I can find is > that you can > view and save the log file to a hard disk, and / or send it to > a syslog > server. I do not see where to disable the log (menu or CLI > commands), or to > clear it. You could ask NetGear tech support... > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rob Wentworth" > To: ; > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 5:32 PM > Subject: Re: [tcwug-list] Netgear WG302 > > > >I downloaded the PDF manual. Page 4-3 says: > > "You may click Refresh to update the display or Click Save > As. To save the > > log contents into a file on your PC, click Save As and save > the file to a > > disk drive." > > ------ > > > This AP doesn't seem to have the option to turn off logging, > or to clean > > it out. > > ------ > > > I have a new Netgear WG302 but it doesn't hold a connection > to it over a > > couple of days of activity. I find that it works best when > I power cycle > > it every morning. > > > > > From leif at utne.com Wed Feb 23 14:52:12 2005 From: leif at utne.com (Leif Utne) Date: Wed Feb 23 14:57:46 2005 Subject: [tcwug-list] FW: CUWiN Releases Open-Source Wireless Networking Software Message-ID: FYI. Could this be a useful tool for the Loring Park wifi project? -- Leif Utne Associate Editor, Utne Magazine 612.338.5040 x348 www.utne.com http://public.xdi.org/=Leif.Utne -- ***PLEASE FORWARD*** FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE February 1, 2005 PRESS CONTACT: Sascha Meinrath (217)278-3933 sascha at cuwireless.net CUWiN Website: http://www.cuwireless.net CUWiN ANNOUNCES PUBLIC RELEASE OF FREE OPEN SOURCE WIRELESS NETWORKING SOFTWARE: Imagine a free wireless networking system that any municipality, company, or group of neighbors could easily set up themselves. Over the past half-decade, the Champaign-Urbana Community Wireless Network (CUWiN) has been developing an open source, turnkey wireless networking solution that exceeds the functionality of many proprietary systems. CUWiN's vision is ubiquitous, extremely high-speed, low- cost networking for every community and constituency. Following in the footsteps of Linux and Firefox, CUWiN has focused on creating a low-cost, non-proprietary, user-friendly system. CUWiN's software will share connectivity across the network, allowing users to buy bandwidth in bulk and benefit from the cost savings. CUWiN networks are self-configuring and self-healing -- so adding new wireless nodes is hassle-free, and the system automatically adapts to the loss of an existing node. And, because CUWiN networks are completely ad- hoc, there's no need for expensive central servers or specialized administration equipment. To set up a network, all end-users need to do is burn a CD with CUWiN's software (which will be available for free at http://www.cuwireless.net), put the CD into an old desktop computer equipped with a supported wireless card, and turn the computer on. Once the computer boots from the CD, the rest of the setup is completely automated: from loading the networking operating system and software, sending out beacons to nearby nodes, negotiating network connectivity, and assimilating into the network -- all the complicated technical setup is taken care of automatically. Unlike most broadband systems, CUWiN's software builds a local intranet as well as providing for Internet-connectivity -- thus, a town that uses CUWiN's system is also creating a community-wide local area network over which streaming audio and video, voice services, etc. can all be sent. CUWiN is a cutting edge research and development initiative. CUWiN has pioneered the first open source implementation of Hazy Sighted Link State routing protocol (first developed by BBN Technologies); thus CUWiN's software creates a highly robust, scalable ad-hoc wireless networks. CUWiN's route prioritization metric is based on research conducted at MIT and will automatically adapt to any network topology and local geography. CUWiN's software is, and always will be, available for free. CUWiN is a non-profit organization supported by grants and donations. CUWiN's software provides one of the world's most advanced networking solutions available today; and we are now making our software available to the general public to use, test, and help develop. We know that there are features and improvements that people will want to see in future releases -- as an open source project, we are counting on the feedback and input from people around the globe. More information on setting up your own CUWiN network is available online now at: http://www.cuwireless.net/documentation The latest version (0.5.5) of the CUWiN software will be available for public download by the end of the week at: http://www.cuwireless.net/downloads A brief article on the background, history, and ethos of the CUWiN project is available at: www.comtechreview.org/article.php?article_id=259 *** About CUWiN: The Champaign-Urbana Community Wireless Network (CUWiN) has built a communications system using wireless networking equipment. This is essentially the same "WiFi" equipment used in homes and offices, but we put it on rooftops to connect neighbors and form a high-speed community network. CUWiN's three-part mission is to: connect more people to Internet and broadband services; develop open-source hardware and software for use by wireless projects world-wide; and, build and support community-owned, not-for-profit broadband networks in cities and towns around the globe. CUWiN gives communities a new choice for their communications infrastructure by building a house-to-house wireless "mesh." CUWiN makes it possible for neighbors to share broadband Internet access and services including Voice over IP as an alternative to traditional phone service, and alternatives to radio and cable -- such as live broadcasts from grassroots media-makers from Independent Media Centers and "Internet radio stations" in subscribers' homes. OJC Technologies (http://www.ojctech.com) is our development home. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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The Saint Paul Broadband Access Project was part of a February 22 meeting at City Hall to begin mapping out a look at the city's alternatives, per the Council's resolution in December, 2004 with a report back called for on April 1, 2005. Participants also included representatives from the Saint Paul Chamber, the city's Tech and Council Research departments, and Council Member Lee Helgen's office. Discussion centered around general goals or issues involved in potential citywide wifi or other broadband development. Included in benefits of a citywide approach were possibilities of lower cost broadband services to small businesses, low-income and minority neighborhoods - with related educational, employment and other opportunities to address "digital divide" issues. Other forms of potential economic and civic development included tourism or promotion for the city, and opportunities to offer better and more cost-efficient city services such as public safety, health etc. Council Member Helgen also noted the advantages of a cohesive citywide system over a piecemeal wifi system based upon "hotspots" such as those at coffeeshops etc. for business travelers. The Chamber representative noted concerns about the City's involvement and what might be seen as potential competition with some private telecommunications providers such as Comcast. We noted that many Saint Paul businesses, including telecommunications firms, could be expected to benefit from lower-cost wifi. Other participants noted that the city is primarily interested in acting as a catalyst to achieve wifi's potentials, with a public-private partnership a very possible option. Minneapolis RFP, which seeks out bids from private telecommunications firms for a citywide wifi system, was generally discussed as a possible model - among others. Research on these and other related subjects, including the city's current telecommunications infrastructure (fiber optic lines etc.) was divided up among participants with reports expected back at the next meeting on March 8. It was also agreed that attempts would be made to broaden the group including Saint Paul school officials, the University of Minnesota, Convention and Visitors Bureau, City Attorneys office and others. 2. We are distributing the following general wifi resolution for precinct caucuses on March 1. We'd appreciate any presenters or other support you are willing to give: RESOLUTION RELATING TO THE EXPANSION OF WIRELESS AND OTHER HIGH SPEED, BROADBAND INTERNET AND OTHER TELECOMMUNICATIONS ACCESS OPPORTUNITIES FOR PRIVATE BUSINESSES, INSTITUTIONS AND THE GENERAL PUBLIC OF SAINT PAUL * WHEREAS, recent technological changes including the introduction of wi-fi networking, internet telephony (VOIP), high definition video and further expected breakthroughs have greatly improved options for transmission and receival of high speed broadband internet and other telecommunications signals; and * WHEREAS, while an estimated 25 million Americans currently use some form of high speed broadband, the lack of cable and DSL connection access in some geographic areas including Saint Paul and prices that have remained largely constant over the past five years has now seen us nationally drop from first to 13th in the world in proportion of access; and * WHEREAS, the role of high speed broadband access for business, educational, health, tourist, governmental, recreational and other informational or communication purposes has become increasingly important with the resulting lack of access for those unable to share its benefits for economic, geographic or educational reasons creating what is known as a "digital divide"; and * WHEREAS, numerous cities, municipalities and communities across the nation, including our neighbor the City of Minneapolis, have recently undertaken or completed projects to promote reduced cost wireless (wi-fi) networking covering broad geographic areas; and * WHEREAS, included in the potential benefits is cost savings and improved service opportunities for public safety, schools, inspectors, parks, public works, and other governmental departments; and * WHEREAS, we have similar needs and opportunities that require all Saint Paul businesses, governmental institutions and residents to have full access to state-of-the-art broadband internet and other communications facilities at affordable prices, and other groups such as the Saint Paul Broadband Access Project and the Twin Cities Wireless Users Groups have emerged as potential allies in such efforts; and *NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that the City of Saint Paul immediately research and pursue any and all readily identifiable options in conjunction with these groups or others interested in creating affordable broadband access for all in the city who desire it. 3. We are tentatively scheduled to be part of an April 19 telecommunications conference hosted by the Minnesota Council on Nonprofits that would include a panel focusing on broadband (wifi) opportunitities. We have also been talking with other groups about potential public events that would highlight and hopefully focus the discussion about wifi pros and cons in the Twin Cities. More on that as it develops. Again, thanks for your interest and we welcome any feedback. Jon Kerr Saint Paul Broadband Access Project 651-457-9254 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFCHQkLfYg2asD844oRAtQ9AJ4mkyu4Cq91VmbIQpeQQuZ+lHkqawCgsyuW Sx4bS3Tyv5G1AQrOFU9zbws= =JWj9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From kaze0010 at umn.edu Wed Feb 23 21:04:11 2005 From: kaze0010 at umn.edu (Haudy Kazemi) Date: Wed Feb 23 21:07:49 2005 Subject: [tcwug-list] Saint Paul Broadband (wifi) update & caucusresolution! (fwd) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.20050223210411.01fdc158@kaze0010.email.umn.edu> I'm interested in this...is Jon Kerr the person to talk to about getting involved, or is this more of a 'closed' group? I'm certainly for this project, provided it doesn't become something run by (insert private monopoly of choice here). I definitely do not want to see something like has happened in Philadelphia where the city is not allowed to do public wireless (IIRC this prohibtion came at the behest of Verizon). -hk At 04:51 PM 2/23/2005 -0600, Ben Kochie wrote: >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >Hash: SHA1 > >I am forwarding on some interesting info I got about St. Paul-wide WiFi > >- -ben > > "Unix is user friendly, Its just picky about its friends." > >- ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 12:33:17 -0600 >From: Jon Kerr > >Hi everyone! >I wanted to send a quick update to everyone who has expressed interest on the City of Saint Paul's wifi initiative. I welcome any and all feedback on these items: > >1. The Saint Paul Broadband Access Project was part of a February 22 meeting at City Hall to begin mapping out a look at the city's alternatives, per the Council's resolution in December, 2004 with a report back called for on April 1, 2005. Participants also included representatives from the Saint Paul Chamber, the city's Tech and Council Research departments, and Council Member Lee Helgen's office. >Discussion centered around general goals or issues involved in potential citywide wifi or other broadband development. >Included in benefits of a citywide approach were possibilities of lower cost broadband services to small businesses, low-income and minority neighborhoods - with related educational, employment and other opportunities to address "digital divide" issues. Other forms of potential economic and civic development included tourism or promotion for the city, and opportunities to offer better and more cost-efficient city services such as public safety, health etc. Council Member Helgen also noted the advantages of a cohesive citywide system over a piecemeal wifi system based upon "hotspots" such as those at coffeeshops etc. for business travelers. >The Chamber representative noted concerns about the City's involvement and what might be seen as potential competition with some private telecommunications providers such as Comcast. We noted that many Saint Paul businesses, including telecommunications firms, could be expected to benefit from lower-cost wifi. Other participants noted that the city is primarily interested in acting as a catalyst to achieve wifi's potentials, with a public-private partnership a very possible option. Minneapolis RFP, which seeks out bids from private telecommunications firms for a citywide wifi system, was generally discussed as a possible model - among others. >Research on these and other related subjects, including the city's current telecommunications infrastructure (fiber optic lines etc.) was divided up among participants with reports expected back at the next meeting on March 8. It was also agreed that attempts would be made to broaden the group including Saint Paul school officials, the University of Minnesota, Convention and Visitors Bureau, City Attorneys office and others. > >2. We are distributing the following general wifi resolution for precinct caucuses on March 1. We'd appreciate any presenters or other support you are willing to give: > >RESOLUTION RELATING TO THE EXPANSION OF WIRELESS AND OTHER HIGH SPEED, >BROADBAND INTERNET AND OTHER TELECOMMUNICATIONS ACCESS OPPORTUNITIES FOR >PRIVATE BUSINESSES, INSTITUTIONS AND THE GENERAL PUBLIC OF SAINT PAUL > > >* WHEREAS, recent technological changes including the introduction of wi-fi >networking, internet telephony (VOIP), high definition video and further >expected breakthroughs have greatly improved options for transmission and >receival of high speed broadband internet and other telecommunications >signals; and > >* WHEREAS, while an estimated 25 million Americans currently use some form >of high speed broadband, the lack of cable and DSL connection access in some >geographic areas including Saint Paul and prices that have remained largely >constant over the past five years has now seen us nationally drop from first >to 13th in the world in proportion of access; and > >* WHEREAS, the role of high speed broadband access for business, >educational, health, tourist, governmental, recreational and other >informational or communication purposes has become increasingly important >with the resulting lack of access for those unable to share its benefits for >economic, geographic or educational reasons creating what is known as a >"digital divide"; and > >* WHEREAS, numerous cities, municipalities and communities across the >nation, including our neighbor the City of Minneapolis, have recently >undertaken or completed projects to promote reduced cost wireless (wi-fi) >networking covering broad geographic areas; and > >* WHEREAS, included in the potential benefits is cost savings and improved >service opportunities for public safety, schools, inspectors, parks, public >works, and other governmental departments; and > >* WHEREAS, we have similar needs and opportunities that require all Saint >Paul businesses, governmental institutions and residents to have full access >to state-of-the-art broadband internet and other communications facilities >at affordable prices, and other groups such as the Saint Paul Broadband >Access Project and the Twin Cities Wireless Users Groups have emerged as >potential allies in such efforts; and > >*NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that the City of Saint Paul immediately >research and pursue any and all readily identifiable options in conjunction >with these groups or others interested in creating affordable broadband >access for all in the city who desire it. > >3. We are tentatively scheduled to be part of an April 19 telecommunications conference hosted by the Minnesota Council on Nonprofits that would include a panel focusing on broadband (wifi) opportunitities. We have also been talking with other groups about potential public events that would highlight and hopefully focus the discussion about wifi pros and cons in the Twin Cities. More on that as it develops. > >Again, thanks for your interest and we welcome any feedback. > >Jon Kerr >Saint Paul Broadband Access Project >651-457-9254 >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) > >iD8DBQFCHQkLfYg2asD844oRAtQ9AJ4mkyu4Cq91VmbIQpeQQuZ+lHkqawCgsyuW >Sx4bS3Tyv5G1AQrOFU9zbws= >=JWj9 >-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > >_______________________________________________ >Twin Cities Wireless Users Group Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >tcwug-list@tcwug.org >http://mailman.tcwug.org/mailman/listinfo/tcwug-list > > From ben at nerp.net Wed Feb 23 22:10:21 2005 From: ben at nerp.net (Ben Kochie) Date: Wed Feb 23 22:12:48 2005 Subject: [tcwug-list] Saint Paul Broadband (wifi) update & caucusresolution! (fwd) In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.20050223210411.01fdc158@kaze0010.email.umn.edu> References: <3.0.5.32.20050223210411.01fdc158@kaze0010.email.umn.edu> Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I am hoping we can push community involvement too.. the city of minneapolis wants to install the infrastructure. The reason for this is because they both got burned by richocet and their rusting hardware. Hopefuly we can avoid this with St. Paul. Unfortunately, several named monopolies, mostly comcast and qwest both scream "BUT OUR JOBS" when people talk about city-wide wifi.. but neither are smart enough to attempt doing it themselvs. - -ben "Unix is user friendly, Its just picky about its friends." On Wed, 23 Feb 2005, Haudy Kazemi wrote: > I'm interested in this...is Jon Kerr the person to talk to about getting > involved, or is this more of a 'closed' group? I'm certainly for this > project, provided it doesn't become something run by (insert private > monopoly of choice here). I definitely do not want to see something like > has happened in Philadelphia where the city is not allowed to do public > wireless (IIRC this prohibtion came at the behest of Verizon). > > -hk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFCHVOwfYg2asD844oRAkxPAJ9+3cyPYxhWgY7HMG7RaWajBTo0IgCffze7 EZ7lpaFB+HKZ9vIKFb+MoSQ= =+HVI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From dieman at ringworld.org Wed Feb 23 22:36:25 2005 From: dieman at ringworld.org (Scott Dier) Date: Wed Feb 23 22:42:48 2005 Subject: [tcwug-list] Re: Saint Paul Broadband (wifi) update & caucusresolution! (fwd) In-Reply-To: References: <3.0.5.32.20050223210411.01fdc158@kaze0010.email.umn.edu> Message-ID: <20050224043622.GM14600@ringworld.org> I hope you all read Larry Lessig's recent commentary on Wired that was quite good. Send it off to your state legicritter too. Throw in some extra bio on Larry, too. (like a link to his website, or a quip on how west wing protrayed him recently, or perhaps not.) http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/13.03/view.html?pg=5 Theres even a podcast! :) This is the sort of discussion we need to be starting at the state level now so the telcos can't come in and decide to end-run the locals by bringing the state in. * Ben Kochie [050223 22:16]: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > I am hoping we can push community involvement too.. the city of > minneapolis wants to install the > infrastructure. The reason for this is because they both got burned by > richocet and their rusting hardware. Hopefuly we can avoid this with St. > Paul. Unfortunately, several named monopolies, mostly comcast and qwest > both scream "BUT OUR JOBS" when people talk about city-wide wifi.. but > neither are smart enough to attempt doing it themselvs. > > - -ben > > "Unix is user friendly, Its just picky about its friends." > > On Wed, 23 Feb 2005, Haudy Kazemi wrote: > > >I'm interested in this...is Jon Kerr the person to talk to about getting > >involved, or is this more of a 'closed' group? I'm certainly for this > >project, provided it doesn't become something run by (insert private > >monopoly of choice here). I definitely do not want to see something like > >has happened in Philadelphia where the city is not allowed to do public > >wireless (IIRC this prohibtion came at the behest of Verizon). > > > >-hk > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFCHVOwfYg2asD844oRAkxPAJ9+3cyPYxhWgY7HMG7RaWajBTo0IgCffze7 > EZ7lpaFB+HKZ9vIKFb+MoSQ= > =+HVI > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > Twin Cities Wireless Users Group Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, > Minnesota > tcwug-list@tcwug.org > http://mailman.tcwug.org/mailman/listinfo/tcwug-list > -- Scott Dier KC0OBS http://www.ringworld.org/ -- http://www.railworks.org/ -- http://publictransportation.org/ -- Stop "playing political splat ball," support the Northstar Train! From dieman at ringworld.org Wed Feb 23 22:38:36 2005 From: dieman at ringworld.org (Scott Dier) Date: Wed Feb 23 22:42:51 2005 Subject: [tcwug-list] Re: Saint Paul Broadband (wifi) update & caucusresolution! (fwd) In-Reply-To: References: <3.0.5.32.20050223210411.01fdc158@kaze0010.email.umn.edu> Message-ID: <20050224043836.GN14600@ringworld.org> On top of the telcos, I wonder if verizon/t-mobile/sprint/etc are going to come out of the woodwork to talk about their plans for 5 years down the road. Everybody, by then, should have a broadband competitor avaliable in the cell phone market. Might be interesting if they get annoyed that this could dilute their market. * Ben Kochie [050223 22:16]: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > I am hoping we can push community involvement too.. the city of > minneapolis wants to install the > infrastructure. The reason for this is because they both got burned by > richocet and their rusting hardware. Hopefuly we can avoid this with St. > Paul. Unfortunately, several named monopolies, mostly comcast and qwest > both scream "BUT OUR JOBS" when people talk about city-wide wifi.. but > neither are smart enough to attempt doing it themselvs. > > - -ben > > "Unix is user friendly, Its just picky about its friends." > > On Wed, 23 Feb 2005, Haudy Kazemi wrote: > > >I'm interested in this...is Jon Kerr the person to talk to about getting > >involved, or is this more of a 'closed' group? I'm certainly for this > >project, provided it doesn't become something run by (insert private > >monopoly of choice here). I definitely do not want to see something like > >has happened in Philadelphia where the city is not allowed to do public > >wireless (IIRC this prohibtion came at the behest of Verizon). > > > >-hk > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFCHVOwfYg2asD844oRAkxPAJ9+3cyPYxhWgY7HMG7RaWajBTo0IgCffze7 > EZ7lpaFB+HKZ9vIKFb+MoSQ= > =+HVI > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > Twin Cities Wireless Users Group Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, > Minnesota > tcwug-list@tcwug.org > http://mailman.tcwug.org/mailman/listinfo/tcwug-list > -- Scott Dier KC0OBS http://www.ringworld.org/ -- http://www.railworks.org/ -- http://publictransportation.org/ -- Stop "playing political splat ball," support the Northstar Train! From sulrich at botwerks.org Thu Feb 24 07:58:02 2005 From: sulrich at botwerks.org (steve ulrich) Date: Thu Feb 24 12:32:52 2005 Subject: [tcwug-list] FW: CUWiN Releases Open-Source Wireless Networking Software Message-ID: <895ad7a429e4074b582d738fce671b84@botwerks.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 note to self - mail.app doesn't pay attention to list-post headers... On Feb 23, 2005, at 2:52 PM, Leif Utne wrote: > FYI. Could this be a useful tool for the Loring Park wifi project? while not speaking to the utility of this for the loring wifi project (for which i believe there is some) it's interesting to note for the routing nerds amongst us that this includes an implementation of a the Hazy Sighted Link State routing protocol (HSLS). which is another flavor of ad-hoc routing protocol that's been floating around for a while. if poking at routing protocols is your thing. i'd give it a look see. {snipped - misc. previous correspondence} - -- steve ulrich sulrich@botwerks.org PGP: 8D0B 0EE9 E700 A6CF ABA7 AE5F 4FD4 07C9 133B FAFC -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCHd1uT9QHyRM7+vwRAqzFAKC2nbyeF8GNlLYo85QDTGgO429SegCeJ+6j wkuXNA0XPRE3Ug75siuHX3I= =oyPm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From leif at utne.com Fri Feb 25 13:12:57 2005 From: leif at utne.com (Leif Utne) Date: Fri Feb 25 13:18:02 2005 Subject: [tcwug-list] Fwd: Defend Community Internet Message-ID: <42569A57-8761-11D9-824E-000A95DB3176@utne.com> Just received this alert from the Free Press (www.mediareform.net) list. -- Leif Utne Associate Editor, Utne Magazine 612.338.5040 x348 www.utne.com http://public.xdi.org/=Leif.Utne -- Begin forwarded message: > Dear Media Reformer: > > Community Internet may be the most important media policy fight of > the decade. Local communities across the country -- looking to offer > affordable, universal access to high-speed broadband services -- are > squaring off against big cable and telephone companies determined to > outlaw the competition. > > In a few years, all communications -- TV, radio, Internet and > telephone -- will come through broadband Internet connections. If Big > Media has its way, access will cost more than $100 a month, and > corporations -- not communities -- will determine what information is > available and what's not. > > The fight for tomorrow's technology is being waged today. Here's what > you can do: > > 1. Watch Free Press Policy Director Ben Scott on tonight's broadcast > of NOW, the PBS news magazine. (Click here to check your local > listings.) Then visit Free Press' new Community Internet site to learn > more. > > 2. A rapid response from vocal citizens is the only way to stop the > cable and telephone companies when they try to sneak in bad > legislation under the radar. Help us win the next battle by getting 10 > people to sign up now as Free Press e-activists for future actions. > It's free and takes only a few seconds. > > 3. Meet and strategize with other activists working to defend > Community Internet at the National Conference for Media Reform in St. > Louis on May 13-15. You can register for the conference online or by > calling (866) 462-2838. We need you to be there to build this > important campaign. > > With your help, we can stop Big Media -- and win the struggle for the > future of communications in America. > > Onward, > > Josh Silver > Executive Director > Free Press > > P.S. Early bird registration for the conference is still available, > but not for much longer. Register now. From poptix at techmonkeys.org Sat Feb 26 01:36:23 2005 From: poptix at techmonkeys.org (Matthew S. Hallacy) Date: Sat Feb 26 01:46:16 2005 Subject: [tcwug-list] Fwd: Defend Community Internet In-Reply-To: <42569A57-8761-11D9-824E-000A95DB3176@utne.com> References: <42569A57-8761-11D9-824E-000A95DB3176@utne.com> Message-ID: <20050226073623.GF3913@momentum.poptix.net> You know what guys, this is getting old. I happen to run a small wireless ISP west of the cities, I'm on mailing lists full of people who also run wireless ISP's. The government should not be competing against the private sector 99.999% of the time, the Twin Cities area has more than sufficient internet access options, and what is being proposed is a huge waste of tax dollars. Broadband is $20/mo for DSL from companies like MSN, $42.95 for faster service from the likes of Comcast or RoadRunner. If you can't afford that then perhaps you need to GET A JOB, or visit the public library for your downloading needs. If St Paul really has issues with lack of "quality" broadband they should terminate their contract with comcast to run their cable network and find someone else that will do it to their liking. I challenge you all to consider what would happen to *your* job if the government came in and started using your own tax dollars to compete with you. And stop blaming the big bad monopolies, your local city council are the ones giving them free reign over the cable networks. Your state and federal goverments are the ones giving them corporate welfare that lets them undercut the prices of local competition, and YOU are the ones electing those government officials. Blame yourself. > >Dear Media Reformer: > > > > Community Internet may be the most important media policy fight of > >the decade. Local communities across the country -- looking to offer > >affordable, universal access to high-speed broadband services -- are > >squaring off against big cable and telephone companies determined to > >outlaw the competition. > > > > In a few years, all communications -- TV, radio, Internet and > >telephone -- will come through broadband Internet connections. If Big > >Media has its way, access will cost more than $100 a month, and > >corporations -- not communities -- will determine what information is > >available and what's not. > > > > The fight for tomorrow's technology is being waged today. Here's what > >you can do: > > > > 1. Watch Free Press Policy Director Ben Scott on tonight's broadcast > >of NOW, the PBS news magazine. (Click here to check your local > >listings.) Then visit Free Press' new Community Internet site to learn > >more. > > > > 2. A rapid response from vocal citizens is the only way to stop the > >cable and telephone companies when they try to sneak in bad > >legislation under the radar. Help us win the next battle by getting 10 > >people to sign up now as Free Press e-activists for future actions. > >It's free and takes only a few seconds. > > > > 3. Meet and strategize with other activists working to defend > >Community Internet at the National Conference for Media Reform in St. > >Louis on May 13-15. You can register for the conference online or by > >calling (866) 462-2838. We need you to be there to build this > >important campaign. > > > > With your help, we can stop Big Media -- and win the struggle for the > >future of communications in America. > > > > Onward, > > > > Josh Silver > > Executive Director > >Free Press > > > >P.S. Early bird registration for the conference is still available, > >but not for much longer. Register now. -- Matthew S. Hallacy FUBAR, LART, BOFH Certified http://www.poptix.net GPG public key 0x01938203 From jsclark at visi.com Sat Feb 26 10:18:31 2005 From: jsclark at visi.com (Jon Clark) Date: Sat Feb 26 10:23:12 2005 Subject: [tcwug-list] Fwd: Defend Community Internet Message-ID: <001901c51c1e$d0146000$6800a8c0@opus.corp.root> I agree with Matthew, primarily for the following reason: if you think you can make a case for government-run, free (or heavily subsidized) internet access, then why not endorse the same thing with (at least) phone service, cable TV, and cellular/pcs services? The only possible defense of this approach is if a particular area completely lacks and options for connectivity and no private provider will offer anything there. This approach would be a VERY difficult justification for urban St. Paul. You may not like your choices - Comcast, Qwest, Covad and perhaps a few others - but the fact is that you have choices. Lawrence Lessig's argument is hollow - he is implying that because the US didn't take the same approach as many Asian countries (such as South Korea or Singapore, where average home broadband speeds are almost 10Mbit and proportionately cost less than 1 MBit in the US), we are destined to wallow in Broadband purgatory and we need local and state governments to 'save' us from the evil, greedy corporations. Statements like 'free wireless access increases the value of public spaces just as, well, streetlamps do' - make me paint a mental picture of a whole park full of people tethered to some kind of small, portable device, typing, browsing or yammering away with little sense of their surroundings. Do you think most people who would sit in a park to spend the entire time browsing around on the internet even care they are sitting in a park? While my sense of competitiveness tells me I would like bragging rights to cheap, ubiquitous and thorough wireless broadband coverage, I have to remind myself that it is not VITAL to our existence in the global economy. Why do the cities want it? So they can have free, real-time database lookups for their police forces' laptops as they ride around in their squads. Great, what else? Is there something else *vital* to their core mission(s) that require that kind of access? Everyone has a different perspective, I understand this. Personally, I have two a/b/g / bluetooth / 1xRTT enabled laptops, 4 cell phones (all with bluetooth and at least EDGE or 1XRTT), a blackberry (hacked for dial-up 1XRTT access over bluetooth), a Win Mobile 2003 smartphone with bt, 802.11g and quad-band gsm/gprs/edge. I just finished deploying a/b/g wireless to a 70,000 square foot building that includes multiple SSID's, LEAP and QoS for Cisco Wi-Fi phones (which are pretty slick, btw). But you know what? You have to unplug from time to time for your own sanity... Just my $0.02. -Jon jsclark@visi.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthew S. Hallacy" To: "Leif Utne" ; Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 1:36 AM Subject: Re: [tcwug-list] Fwd: Defend Community Internet > You know what guys, this is getting old. I happen to run a small > wireless ISP west of the cities, I'm on mailing lists full of people > who also run wireless ISP's. > > The government should not be competing against the private sector > 99.999% of the time, the Twin Cities area has more than sufficient > internet access options, and what is being proposed is a huge waste > of tax dollars. > > Broadband is $20/mo for DSL from companies like MSN, $42.95 for faster > service from the likes of Comcast or RoadRunner. If you can't afford that > then perhaps you need to GET A JOB, or visit the public library for your > downloading needs. > > If St Paul really has issues with lack of "quality" broadband they should > terminate their contract with comcast to run their cable network and find > someone else that will do it to their liking. > > I challenge you all to consider what would happen to *your* job if the > government came in and started using your own tax dollars to compete with > you. > > And stop blaming the big bad monopolies, your local city council are the > ones giving them free reign over the cable networks. Your state and > federal > goverments are the ones giving them corporate welfare that lets them > undercut > the prices of local competition, and YOU are the ones electing those > government officials. Blame yourself. > From sulrich at botwerks.org Sun Feb 27 09:19:11 2005 From: sulrich at botwerks.org (steve ulrich) Date: Sun Feb 27 09:23:22 2005 Subject: [tcwug-list] wireless minneapolis/st. paul (as in publicly funded) Message-ID: <190c9a0a39578e87ceb6dd3367590703@botwerks.org> all- this link came across the minneapolis issues list the other day and there's actually some interesting content. apparently PBS aired a segment in "NOW", that will be rebroadcast on channel 17 monday night, discussing the basics of municipal bb, philadelphia and the telco efforts to kill it. i found it to be a fairly balanced discussion of the issues with a nice point/counterpoint table, which is always fun. http://www.pbs.org/now/ -- steve ulrich sulrich@botwerks.org PGP: 8D0B 0EE9 E700 A6CF ABA7 AE5F 4FD4 07C9 133B FAFC -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: PGP.sig Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 186 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part Url : http://shadowknight.real-time.com/pipermail/tcwug-list/attachments/20050227/749afcdf/PGP.pgp From ben at raqz.net Wed Feb 23 16:16:59 2005 From: ben at raqz.net (Ben Kochie) Date: Tue Mar 1 22:15:47 2005 Subject: [tcwug-list] Saint Paul Broadband (wifi) update & caucus resolution! (fwd) Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I am forwarding on some interesting info I got about St. Paul-wide WiFi Contact info is at the bottom. - -ben "Unix is user friendly, Its just picky about its friends." - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 12:33:17 -0600 Hi everyone! I wanted to send a quick update to everyone who has expressed interest on the City of Saint Paul's wifi initiative. I welcome any and all feedback on these items: 1. The Saint Paul Broadband Access Project was part of a February 22 meeting at City Hall to begin mapping out a look at the city's alternatives, per the Council's resolution in December, 2004 with a report back called for on April 1, 2005. Participants also included representatives from the Saint Paul Chamber, the city's Tech and Council Research departments, and Council Member Lee Helgen's office. Discussion centered around general goals or issues involved in potential citywide wifi or other broadband development. Included in benefits of a citywide approach were possibilities of lower cost broadband services to small businesses, low-income and minority neighborhoods - with related educational, employment and other opportunities to address "digital divide" issues. Other forms of potential economic and civic development included tourism or promotion for the city, and opportunities to offer better and more cost-efficient city services such as public safety, health etc. Council Member Helgen also noted the advantages of a cohesive citywide system over a piecemeal wifi system based upon "hotspots" such as those at coffeeshops etc. for business travelers. The Chamber representative noted concerns about the City's involvement and what might be seen as potential competition with some private telecommunications providers such as Comcast. We noted that many Saint Paul businesses, including telecommunications firms, could be expected to benefit from lower-cost wifi. Other participants noted that the city is primarily interested in acting as a catalyst to achieve wifi's potentials, with a public-private partnership a very possible option. Minneapolis RFP, which seeks out bids from private telecommunications firms for a citywide wifi system, was generally discussed as a possible model - among others. Research on these and other related subjects, including the city's current telecommunications infrastructure (fiber optic lines etc.) was divided up among participants with reports expected back at the next meeting on March 8. It was also agreed that attempts would be made to broaden the group including Saint Paul school officials, the University of Minnesota, Convention and Visitors Bureau, City Attorneys office and others. 2. We are distributing the following general wifi resolution for precinct caucuses on March 1. We'd appreciate any presenters or other support you are willing to give: RESOLUTION RELATING TO THE EXPANSION OF WIRELESS AND OTHER HIGH SPEED, BROADBAND INTERNET AND OTHER TELECOMMUNICATIONS ACCESS OPPORTUNITIES FOR PRIVATE BUSINESSES, INSTITUTIONS AND THE GENERAL PUBLIC OF SAINT PAUL * WHEREAS, recent technological changes including the introduction of wi-fi networking, internet telephony (VOIP), high definition video and further expected breakthroughs have greatly improved options for transmission and receival of high speed broadband internet and other telecommunications signals; and * WHEREAS, while an estimated 25 million Americans currently use some form of high speed broadband, the lack of cable and DSL connection access in some geographic areas including Saint Paul and prices that have remained largely constant over the past five years has now seen us nationally drop from first to 13th in the world in proportion of access; and * WHEREAS, the role of high speed broadband access for business, educational, health, tourist, governmental, recreational and other informational or communication purposes has become increasingly important with the resulting lack of access for those unable to share its benefits for economic, geographic or educational reasons creating what is known as a "digital divide"; and * WHEREAS, numerous cities, municipalities and communities across the nation, including our neighbor the City of Minneapolis, have recently undertaken or completed projects to promote reduced cost wireless (wi-fi) networking covering broad geographic areas; and * WHEREAS, included in the potential benefits is cost savings and improved service opportunities for public safety, schools, inspectors, parks, public works, and other governmental departments; and * WHEREAS, we have similar needs and opportunities that require all Saint Paul businesses, governmental institutions and residents to have full access to state-of-the-art broadband internet and other communications facilities at affordable prices, and other groups such as the Saint Paul Broadband Access Project and the Twin Cities Wireless Users Groups have emerged as potential allies in such efforts; and *NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that the City of Saint Paul immediately research and pursue any and all readily identifiable options in conjunction with these groups or others interested in creating affordable broadband access for all in the city who desire it. 3. We are tentatively scheduled to be part of an April 19 telecommunications conference hosted by the Minnesota Council on Nonprofits that would include a panel focusing on broadband (wifi) opportunitities. We have also been talking with other groups about potential public events that would highlight and hopefully focus the discussion about wifi pros and cons in the Twin Cities. More on that as it develops. Again, thanks for your interest and we welcome any feedback. Jon Kerr Saint Paul Broadband Access Project 651-457-9254 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFCHQDjfYg2asD844oRAsZeAKCtzQ10ioOCaUEadWhUwM018/N/UwCfXymT lLNQ331+xf1/5Rm3MfeKgrQ= =tpnQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----