[crossfire] fatigue

[Anton Oussik]

On 9/1/05, Mark Wedel <
     
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      >> You get fatigue by doing strenous things (swimming, flying via skill,
     
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      >>attacking, moving a lot).
     
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      > Or just being awake ? or it will not be fatigue but stamina :)
     
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      Idea was more physical fatigue not mental. I personally don't want to have 
     
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I like the idea of fatigue, but in CF days are so short that battles often 
last for weeks, and players can happily survive on 2-3 meals a week. If 
fatigue is introduced in the same way, that you only need to sleep 
(use_skill rest) once in a while it would be acceptable.


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      >> You lose fatigue by resting - this can basically be measured by the
     
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      >>character having an action and not actually doing anything. Certain 
     
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      >>potions could also reduce fatigue.
     
     

But should be temporary improvement followed by getting very fatigued after 
that. Overdosing should eventually make you so fatigued you die. Also 
fatigue effects should be incremental with time. So when fully fresh you 
start at full stats. Then, after about 30 minutes of play you lose a stat, 
after another 15 minutes another stat, then after 8, 4, 2, and then 1 for 
every other minute of play. When all stats get to 1 you should start losing 
hp, until you die from fatigue or use_skill rest. Resting on a bed should 
speed up recovery (or perhaps change how much you can recover, so sleeping 
on the ground will not get you very good rest?)

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      could be, but you'd have to record how long it was saved for (if I save 
     
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IMO bed of reality should not change in functionality. 

That said, if the character is doing nothing - just standing there, I'd 
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      fatigue should drop pretty darn faster - it should drop faster than you 
     
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Staying awake is an effort. If you don't believe me try doing it for a week.

So basically, fatigue would really come in to play if your doing continuous
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      you stop doing those things, you'd get back to 0 fatigue relatively 
     
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Although it seems what is being discusses here is physical tirednes like 
from running or lifting weights and so on, which is a different tirednes 
than that from staying awake. Perhaps they could be combined together so

total_fatigue = waking_fatigue + active_fatigue

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      If not carrying much, you wouldn't get much fatigue - thus, a lightly
     
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      >>equipped person could run around all day and not have to rest much.
     
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      > Race dependent?
     
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      One could certainly add more variation - different races weighing 
     
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      amount, different carrying capacities, etc. But one issue is that armor is 
     
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Race and class items deserver their own thread, and IMO a very good idea if 
someone has the time to create new archetypes and add race/class 
restrictions to items. 

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      One could give chairs and non savebeds some meaning - sit in one of those,
     
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      fatigue goes down faster.
     
     

This goes back to my use_skill rest idea 

In some states, even when idle, you can't get back fatigue. EG, if you're
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      swimming or flying, you can't be resting - if you just staying in one 
     
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      maybe you fatigue just doesn't go up quite as fast.
     
     

A good observation. If anything flying and swimming should increase fatigue 
unless you are a firebourne and are flying (or a lizard person and 
swimming?) and you should only be able to use skill rest when on the ground.
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