Well, I am so lucky NOT to be on that "shit list"!!!! I must be a Linux Newbie God. I should have known it all along. Shit, I just got interviewed by US News and World Report because I know so damn much!!! OK enough of the bull.... Jeremy I hope you will keep using Linux. I don't know what exactly send you over the edge, but I can honestly say no one on this list has teated me badly. They are hard working people willing to offer good free advice. I try to do the necessary research before blundering into my own stink pile. And when I get stuck, these people help me get out. Simple as that. One last thing. I want everyone on this list except: Mike Hicks Rodd Ahrenstorff (myself) K Hinze ...to apologize to Jeremy. You did not make the cut. LOL :)