On Wed, 10 Jul 2002, Peter Clark wrote: > So last night, I was told to change the permissions of /dev/ttyS3 to > crw-rw----, and it was good. But This morning when I tried to connect, the > permissions had changed back to crw-r-----! I did not reboot or anything; the > computer was on all night. nevermind rebooting, did you logout and login again... redhat used some pam sorcery to set permissions for some "special" devices when you are the first person to login locally... there special files are things like floppies, CD/RWs, COM ports and the like, check in /etc/pam.d/ for something of interest -munir