On Wednesday 10 July 2002 14:25, Munir Nassar wrote: > On Wed, 10 Jul 2002, Peter Clark wrote: > > So last night, I was told to change the permissions of /dev/ttyS3 > > to crw-rw----, and it was good. But This morning when I tried to connect, > > the permissions had changed back to crw-r-----! I did not reboot or > > anything; the computer was on all night. > > nevermind rebooting, did you logout and login again... redhat used some > pam sorcery to set permissions for some "special" devices when you are the > first person to login locally... Well, I'm running Debian, and no, I didn't log out. As I said, I'm pretty sure it has something to do with KPPP (I'm running 3.0.2). Two minutes ago, I went off-line, and set the permissions to crw-rw----. Then I connected and immediately checked the permissions again: crw-r-----. Either that, or it could be something with ppp. I don't know, but it is driving me nuts trying to figure it out. :Peter