so it's not integrated with the mailer; but at least it's not web-based, and it looks like it's fairly functional. http://www.favorin.com/products/time/screenshots.shtml client appears to be free, and is usable for personal calendaring; calendar server is payware, and lets you schedule between people. at least that's how I read their blurb on Freshmeat. Carl Soderstrom. -- Systems Administrator Real-Time Enterprises www.real-time.com