> -----Original Message----- > From: tclug-list-admin at mn-linux.org > [mailto:tclug-list-admin at mn-linux.org]On Behalf Of Bob Tanner > And some may not care at all. I hope tclug never seeks to get > direct business > sponsorship. It's a community of users, for the users, by the > users. "Angel" > sponsorship (much like Angel investors) of tclug is always welcome. Huh? All I meant is something like "angelic acts" of donation, not "ownership" or whatever you mean. "Sponsor" normally just means that a corporate entity donates money and gets name recognition plus a little favoritism, no more (cf Webster's). Most corporations either cannot or will not give money or accept risks with a non-entity as many people seem to want TCLUG to remain. Random donations may occur, but (for example) getting insurance for public events is hard and finding companies to donate for those payments is harder. A minor accident at an Installfest could become a significant liability incident. As is, TCLUG can't handle money without getting in trouble - if caught. Remaining "just a mailing list" is the easy way out. I'm not trying to be negative or critical overall or I wouldn't be here. By making some short and sharp comments, we have a good view of where opinions really lie... much like giving a transient stimulus to an electronic network, and that is a way to see the characteristics or its transfer function. Maybe everyone else knew all this, but we don't have a FAQ to explain whether we are going.. Developing a mission or basic definition of an organization won't be easy if it's put to general vote. Perhaps that means you and/or Realtime are the defacto responsible parties for now. Whatever.. Regards, Chuck