Ryan Coleman their website was down as i had talked to them on the phone and they told me. you seem to be angry about something. would you care to elaborate on your attack? you seem to be against the idea of a think tank. before the internet i used to buy a case of beer and go to a mechanics shop and learn how to swap out engines and such. so much more work than looking on the internet. i have no desire to be anon. i merely suggest that people, not everyone is like you, seem to care about privacy. i appreciate your response, but i have to say you sound like you are being a dick and almost sound ignorant of the ideas that i have. curious, what did you do before the internet, where you a troll then too? I have spent several hours reading about and i can tell that there is so much out there and in many different directions. my ideas are leading me to some more ideas. open existence. a group similar to tclug to answer questions from how to start a fire with 2 sticks to how to put power back into the grid. i seen a man working in his garage and i thought there is a man who can do something by himself without relying someone else to do it for him. what if i had a disk full of free and openly distributable information on how to make generator (a piece of wire and a magnet isn't difficult to understand), how to farm, how to build a $50 underground house , etc,; basically a disk full how to not rely on the value or the dollar, while allowing you to put electric into the local grid, food into the local area, mesh communication using your existing radio/cell phone. less big bank and more community. (yeah, i pulled out the conspiracy theory card -ryan you going to run with this?) a group of people who care about community and people, when the power goes out the local generators feed into the network. when phones are out mesh keeps communications going. Think like a Rotarian here people. not everyone is a recluse troll type, many people want to go out of their homes and comfort zones and communicate with like minded people and try and improve the lives of people (rich/poor young/old am kindergarten/ pm kindergarten) That is what research does to me. i think in terms of people, not money or power. The 4-Way Test Of the things we think, say or do: 1. Is it the TRUTH? 2. Is it FAIR to all concerned? 3. Will it build GOODWILL and BETTER FRIENDSHIPS? 4. Will it be BENEFICIAL to all concerned? I am not against harsh answers, even though they discourage me from trying to do good, i will play along though. i hope you (my tclug peers) understand if i get a little rude at times when i am discouraged. my apologies if i upset anyone. i will do my best to separate content with paragraphs. i am putting random ideas on tclug. connect mesh with linux here: http://project-byzantium.org/ connect tclug with community and making the world a better place for everyone; read the threads, we do that here. On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 10:09 AM, Ryan Coleman <ryan.coleman at cwis.biz> wrote: > > On Aug 27, 2016, at 8:04 AM, Sandwhich Eyes <sandwhicheyes at gmail.com> > wrote: > > it wouldn't have to be anon i just assume that is a concern to people. > granted i have a limited understanding of mesh, but that doesn't mean that > it can't be imagined in a different light. the general idea is when you > hook up and are given an ip address you could be given alerts. how you get > these alerts and whether or not there is hardware on the node/router unit > in your home is what the question is. > lets say the sirens go off, yes the air raid sirens are our alert system > out here, and the fire dept volunteers are up and running. lets say the > sirens are out due to power loss. > > > Actually that’s the case everywhere in this fine country. We just called > them tornado sirens but they’re classified as “civilian alert sirens” but I > digress. And if they are without power (because the required generator [2 I > think?] is dead then they send someone to fix that and get it back up. When > the CAS are without power that’s a liability for the county and they tend > to give them first attention to get fixed which is why most municipalities > test them more than the one day a month that Hennepin County tests them. I > know Olmsted tests theirs every Wednesday morning with a growl test. I also > know that Appleton, Wisconsin, fires theirs at 1pm every weekday. YMMV. > > the fireman have a node and it alerts them according to the sign in they > used that had required them to choose which alerts to get or whether or not > to get them at all. teacher is at school and ships out homework. a child at > home receives alerts due to the sign in system which makes you choose which > alerts to receive or whether to receive them at all. the city has a meeting > and someone wants to watch but doesn't want the city hall people to know > for whatever reason; idk there could be a reason to be anonymous. > > > I don’t see how this analogy equates… text alerts are better one - the CAS > are there for all to hear whether they want to or not. Sometimes they’re > late, sometimes not. > > DYK you can opt out of the amber alerts and weather alerts on your cell > phone? Ahyep. https://www.google.com/?q=opt%20out%20of%20amber% > 20alerts%20on%20mobile > > i am so busy right now that i am not doing my due diligence > > > Paragraphs might help. :) > > but i don't want to forget a good idea or sit and think about a good idea > when it is in reality not a good idea. as i wrap my head around this i > realize that there is nothing written in stone, not all ideas are going to > work, and that there is still much for me to learn. > > > If you want true anonymity either use TOR or GOML, unplug your computer, > take the battery out of your smart phone and sell your car. This isn’t the > 1850s anymore and we’ve had a long time to get used to the changes. > > School talk is taking most of my time right now. and this clover pos > system. i did security research on it for a business out here. while i was > trying to learn about it their website went down. i am like wow they can't > handle html but they are providing a secure pos system? but mostly the > school talk is my focus for the next week here. i will offer more sound > (but still odd) ideas in the near future. > > > You’d be amazed how often you think someone’s website is down and, in > reality, your link to their host’s system is down. I don’t want a product > that spends thousands of dollars a year on a website that glitters in the > sunlight if they have a solid product and stand behind it. > > What did you do before we had internet? :) > > > On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 2:47 PM, Iznogoud <iznogoud at nobelware.com> wrote: > >> On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 02:02:53PM -0500, Ryan Coleman wrote: >> > >> > MESH networks do not have AP capabilities. They are nodes that are >> designed to allow for self-healing and then, from there, you have your APs. >> That’s the proper design, anything more complicated would probably either >> fail in a short period of time or be very overwhelmed. >> > >> >> What this person said. >> >> There is no need for anyone to have any more accounts... This is purely an >> access mechanism that is "self healing" (in lack of a better phrase). And >> there can certainly be limits that are put on access so that abuse is kept >> to a minimum. >> >> Accounts go with account/service providers. Use "twitter" for example and >> have the mesh be a medium. No? >> _______________________________________________ >> TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >> tclug-list at mn-linux.org >> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >> > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://mailman.mn-linux.org/pipermail/tclug-list/attachments/20160829/4942702d/attachment.html>