The 4-Way Test Of the things we think, say or do: Is it the TRUTH? Is it FAIR to all concerned? Will it build GOODWILL and BETTER FRIENDSHIPS? Will it be BENEFICIAL to all concerned? On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 8:16 AM, Sandwhich Eyes <sandwhicheyes at gmail.com> wrote: > Ryan Coleman their website was down as i had talked to them on the phone > and they told me. you seem to be angry about something. would you care to > elaborate on your attack? you seem to be against the idea of a think tank. > before the internet i used to buy a case of beer and go to a mechanics shop > and learn how to swap out engines and such. so much more work than looking > on the internet. i have no desire to be anon. i merely suggest that people, > not everyone is like you, seem to care about privacy. i appreciate your > response, but i have to say you sound like you are being a dick and almost > sound ignorant of the ideas that i have. curious, what did you do before > the internet, where you a troll then too? > > I have spent several hours reading about and i can tell that there is so > much out there and in many different directions. my ideas are leading > me to some more ideas. open existence. a group similar to tclug to answer > questions from how to start a fire with 2 sticks to how to put > power back into the grid. i seen a man working in his garage and i thought > there is a man who can do something by himself without relying > someone else to do it for him. what if i had a disk full of free and > openly distributable information on how to make generator (a piece of > wire and a magnet isn't difficult to understand), how to farm, how to > build a $50 underground house , etc,; basically a disk full how to not > rely on the value or the dollar, while allowing you to put electric into > the local grid, food into the local area, mesh communication using > your existing radio/cell phone. less big bank and more community. (yeah, > i pulled out the conspiracy theory card -ryan you > going to run with this?) > a group of people who care about community and people, when the power goes > out the local generators feed into the network. when > phones are out mesh keeps communications going. > Think like a Rotarian here people. not everyone is a recluse troll type, > many people want to go out of their homes and comfort zones > and communicate with like minded people and try and improve the lives of > people (rich/poor young/old am kindergarten/ pm kindergarten) > That is what research does to me. i think in terms of people, not money or > power. > > The 4-Way Test > > Of the things we think, say or do: > > > > > > 1. > > Is it the TRUTH? > 2. > > Is it FAIR to all concerned? > 3. > > Will it build GOODWILL and BETTER FRIENDSHIPS? > 4. > > Will it be BENEFICIAL to all concerned? > > I am not against harsh answers, even though they discourage me from trying > to do good, i will play along though. i hope you (my tclug peers) > understand if i get a little rude at times when i am discouraged. my > apologies if i upset anyone. i will do my best to separate content with > paragraphs. i am putting random ideas on tclug. connect mesh with linux > here: http://project-byzantium.org/ connect tclug with community and > making the world a better place for everyone; read the threads, we do that > here. > > On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 10:09 AM, Ryan Coleman <ryan.coleman at cwis.biz> > wrote: > >> >> On Aug 27, 2016, at 8:04 AM, Sandwhich Eyes <sandwhicheyes at gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> it wouldn't have to be anon i just assume that is a concern to people. >> granted i have a limited understanding of mesh, but that doesn't mean that >> it can't be imagined in a different light. the general idea is when you >> hook up and are given an ip address you could be given alerts. how you get >> these alerts and whether or not there is hardware on the node/router unit >> in your home is what the question is. >> lets say the sirens go off, yes the air raid sirens are our alert system >> out here, and the fire dept volunteers are up and running. lets say the >> sirens are out due to power loss. >> >> >> Actually that’s the case everywhere in this fine country. We just called >> them tornado sirens but they’re classified as “civilian alert sirens” but I >> digress. And if they are without power (because the required generator [2 I >> think?] is dead then they send someone to fix that and get it back up. When >> the CAS are without power that’s a liability for the county and they tend >> to give them first attention to get fixed which is why most municipalities >> test them more than the one day a month that Hennepin County tests them. I >> know Olmsted tests theirs every Wednesday morning with a growl test. I also >> know that Appleton, Wisconsin, fires theirs at 1pm every weekday. YMMV. >> >> the fireman have a node and it alerts them according to the sign in they >> used that had required them to choose which alerts to get or whether or not >> to get them at all. teacher is at school and ships out homework. a child at >> home receives alerts due to the sign in system which makes you choose which >> alerts to receive or whether to receive them at all. the city has a meeting >> and someone wants to watch but doesn't want the city hall people to know >> for whatever reason; idk there could be a reason to be anonymous. >> >> >> I don’t see how this analogy equates… text alerts are better one - the >> CAS are there for all to hear whether they want to or not. Sometimes >> they’re late, sometimes not. >> >> DYK you can opt out of the amber alerts and weather alerts on your cell >> phone? Ahyep. https://www.google.com/?q=opt%20out%20of%20amber%20al >> erts%20on%20mobile >> >> i am so busy right now that i am not doing my due diligence >> >> >> Paragraphs might help. :) >> >> but i don't want to forget a good idea or sit and think about a good idea >> when it is in reality not a good idea. as i wrap my head around this i >> realize that there is nothing written in stone, not all ideas are going to >> work, and that there is still much for me to learn. >> >> >> If you want true anonymity either use TOR or GOML, unplug your computer, >> take the battery out of your smart phone and sell your car. This isn’t the >> 1850s anymore and we’ve had a long time to get used to the changes. >> >> School talk is taking most of my time right now. and this clover pos >> system. i did security research on it for a business out here. while i was >> trying to learn about it their website went down. i am like wow they can't >> handle html but they are providing a secure pos system? but mostly the >> school talk is my focus for the next week here. i will offer more sound >> (but still odd) ideas in the near future. >> >> >> You’d be amazed how often you think someone’s website is down and, in >> reality, your link to their host’s system is down. I don’t want a product >> that spends thousands of dollars a year on a website that glitters in the >> sunlight if they have a solid product and stand behind it. >> >> What did you do before we had internet? :) >> >> >> On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 2:47 PM, Iznogoud <iznogoud at nobelware.com> wrote: >> >>> On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 02:02:53PM -0500, Ryan Coleman wrote: >>> > >>> > MESH networks do not have AP capabilities. They are nodes that are >>> designed to allow for self-healing and then, from there, you have your APs. >>> That’s the proper design, anything more complicated would probably either >>> fail in a short period of time or be very overwhelmed. >>> > >>> >>> What this person said. >>> >>> There is no need for anyone to have any more accounts... This is purely >>> an >>> access mechanism that is "self healing" (in lack of a better phrase). And >>> there can certainly be limits that are put on access so that abuse is >>> kept >>> to a minimum. >>> >>> Accounts go with account/service providers. Use "twitter" for example and >>> have the mesh be a medium. No? >>> _______________________________________________ >>> TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >>> tclug-list at mn-linux.org >>> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >> tclug-list at mn-linux.org >> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >> tclug-list at mn-linux.org >> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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