it doesn't look like the rotary 4 way test i live my life by isn't showing up. here is a link if you are interested. http://www.rhhif.org/FourWayTest.cfm On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 8:17 AM, Sandwhich Eyes <sandwhicheyes at gmail.com> wrote: > The 4-Way Test > Of the things we think, say or do: > > > Is it the TRUTH? > Is it FAIR to all concerned? > Will it build GOODWILL and BETTER FRIENDSHIPS? > Will it be BENEFICIAL to all concerned? > > On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 8:16 AM, Sandwhich Eyes <sandwhicheyes at gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Ryan Coleman their website was down as i had talked to them on the phone >> and they told me. you seem to be angry about something. would you care to >> elaborate on your attack? you seem to be against the idea of a think tank. >> before the internet i used to buy a case of beer and go to a mechanics shop >> and learn how to swap out engines and such. so much more work than looking >> on the internet. i have no desire to be anon. i merely suggest that people, >> not everyone is like you, seem to care about privacy. i appreciate your >> response, but i have to say you sound like you are being a dick and almost >> sound ignorant of the ideas that i have. curious, what did you do before >> the internet, where you a troll then too? >> >> I have spent several hours reading about and i can tell that there is so >> much out there and in many different directions. my ideas are leading >> me to some more ideas. open existence. a group similar to tclug to answer >> questions from how to start a fire with 2 sticks to how to put >> power back into the grid. i seen a man working in his garage and i >> thought there is a man who can do something by himself without relying >> someone else to do it for him. what if i had a disk full of free and >> openly distributable information on how to make generator (a piece of >> wire and a magnet isn't difficult to understand), how to farm, how to >> build a $50 underground house , etc,; basically a disk full how to not >> rely on the value or the dollar, while allowing you to put electric into >> the local grid, food into the local area, mesh communication using >> your existing radio/cell phone. less big bank and more community. (yeah, >> i pulled out the conspiracy theory card -ryan you >> going to run with this?) >> a group of people who care about community and people, when the power >> goes out the local generators feed into the network. when >> phones are out mesh keeps communications going. >> Think like a Rotarian here people. not everyone is a recluse troll type, >> many people want to go out of their homes and comfort zones >> and communicate with like minded people and try and improve the lives of >> people (rich/poor young/old am kindergarten/ pm kindergarten) >> That is what research does to me. i think in terms of people, not money >> or power. >> >> The 4-Way Test >> >> Of the things we think, say or do: >> >> >> >> >> >> 1. >> >> Is it the TRUTH? >> 2. >> >> Is it FAIR to all concerned? >> 3. >> >> Will it build GOODWILL and BETTER FRIENDSHIPS? >> 4. >> >> Will it be BENEFICIAL to all concerned? >> >> I am not against harsh answers, even though they discourage me from >> trying to do good, i will play along though. i hope you (my tclug peers) >> understand if i get a little rude at times when i am discouraged. my >> apologies if i upset anyone. i will do my best to separate content with >> paragraphs. i am putting random ideas on tclug. connect mesh with linux >> here: http://project-byzantium.org/ connect tclug with community and >> making the world a better place for everyone; read the threads, we do that >> here. >> >> On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 10:09 AM, Ryan Coleman <ryan.coleman at cwis.biz> >> wrote: >> >>> >>> On Aug 27, 2016, at 8:04 AM, Sandwhich Eyes <sandwhicheyes at gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> it wouldn't have to be anon i just assume that is a concern to people. >>> granted i have a limited understanding of mesh, but that doesn't mean that >>> it can't be imagined in a different light. the general idea is when you >>> hook up and are given an ip address you could be given alerts. how you get >>> these alerts and whether or not there is hardware on the node/router unit >>> in your home is what the question is. >>> lets say the sirens go off, yes the air raid sirens are our alert system >>> out here, and the fire dept volunteers are up and running. lets say the >>> sirens are out due to power loss. >>> >>> >>> Actually that’s the case everywhere in this fine country. We just called >>> them tornado sirens but they’re classified as “civilian alert sirens” but I >>> digress. And if they are without power (because the required generator [2 I >>> think?] is dead then they send someone to fix that and get it back up. When >>> the CAS are without power that’s a liability for the county and they tend >>> to give them first attention to get fixed which is why most municipalities >>> test them more than the one day a month that Hennepin County tests them. I >>> know Olmsted tests theirs every Wednesday morning with a growl test. I also >>> know that Appleton, Wisconsin, fires theirs at 1pm every weekday. YMMV. >>> >>> the fireman have a node and it alerts them according to the sign in they >>> used that had required them to choose which alerts to get or whether or not >>> to get them at all. teacher is at school and ships out homework. a child at >>> home receives alerts due to the sign in system which makes you choose which >>> alerts to receive or whether to receive them at all. the city has a meeting >>> and someone wants to watch but doesn't want the city hall people to know >>> for whatever reason; idk there could be a reason to be anonymous. >>> >>> >>> I don’t see how this analogy equates… text alerts are better one - the >>> CAS are there for all to hear whether they want to or not. Sometimes >>> they’re late, sometimes not. >>> >>> DYK you can opt out of the amber alerts and weather alerts on your cell >>> phone? Ahyep. https://www.google.com/?q=opt%20out%20of%20amber%20al >>> erts%20on%20mobile >>> >>> i am so busy right now that i am not doing my due diligence >>> >>> >>> Paragraphs might help. :) >>> >>> but i don't want to forget a good idea or sit and think about a good >>> idea when it is in reality not a good idea. as i wrap my head around this i >>> realize that there is nothing written in stone, not all ideas are going to >>> work, and that there is still much for me to learn. >>> >>> >>> If you want true anonymity either use TOR or GOML, unplug your computer, >>> take the battery out of your smart phone and sell your car. This isn’t the >>> 1850s anymore and we’ve had a long time to get used to the changes. >>> >>> School talk is taking most of my time right now. and this clover pos >>> system. i did security research on it for a business out here. while i was >>> trying to learn about it their website went down. i am like wow they can't >>> handle html but they are providing a secure pos system? but mostly the >>> school talk is my focus for the next week here. i will offer more sound >>> (but still odd) ideas in the near future. >>> >>> >>> You’d be amazed how often you think someone’s website is down and, in >>> reality, your link to their host’s system is down. I don’t want a product >>> that spends thousands of dollars a year on a website that glitters in the >>> sunlight if they have a solid product and stand behind it. >>> >>> What did you do before we had internet? :) >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 2:47 PM, Iznogoud <iznogoud at nobelware.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 02:02:53PM -0500, Ryan Coleman wrote: >>>> > >>>> > MESH networks do not have AP capabilities. They are nodes that are >>>> designed to allow for self-healing and then, from there, you have your APs. >>>> That’s the proper design, anything more complicated would probably either >>>> fail in a short period of time or be very overwhelmed. >>>> > >>>> >>>> What this person said. >>>> >>>> There is no need for anyone to have any more accounts... This is purely >>>> an >>>> access mechanism that is "self healing" (in lack of a better phrase). >>>> And >>>> there can certainly be limits that are put on access so that abuse is >>>> kept >>>> to a minimum. >>>> >>>> Accounts go with account/service providers. Use "twitter" for example >>>> and >>>> have the mesh be a medium. 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